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07-15-2018, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
And I think Trump rarely uses a teleprompter. And this alone speaks loudly to the confidence he has in himself. But Obama...not so much.
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That's always been Number One on my list of criteria for electing a leader. Too many nitpickers are more concerned with content.
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07-15-2018, 08:47 AM
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The mental gymnastics needed to believe in Trump/Russia collusion, and then to also believe that he and his administration have the collective IQ of a 5th grader (no exaggeration); is truly a remarkable event to watch unfold.
While Trump's administration has struggled to effectively roll out their immigration plans at airports, ports of entry, and at our Southern border, they somehow were able to pull off the greatest election heist in the history of the world working with a foreign 'ally' on the other side of the planet.
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07-15-2018, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
The mental gymnastics needed to believe in Trump/Russia collusion, and then to also believe that he and his administration have the collective IQ of a 5th grader (no exaggeration); is truly a remarkable event to watch unfold.
While Trump's administration has struggled to effectively roll out their immigration plans at airports, ports of entry, and at our Southern border, they somehow were able to pull off the greatest election heist in the history of the world working with a foreign 'ally' on the other side of the planet.
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The correct term..
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"in political jargon, a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person perceived as a propagandist for a cause of whose goals they are not fully aware and who is used cynically by the leaders of the cause"
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Trumps and crew fell for the bait. By the time they realized it, it was too late and a clumsy coverup ensued.
It's just a matter of time.
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07-15-2018, 10:15 AM
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Obama and Hillary realized it, but Obama could not spill all the beans, for fear of appearing to unfairly (as president) weighing things in Hillary's favor.
However she could with public info.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/polit...ing/index.html
Trump was still falling for it, as of 11/2017 or trying to deflect as part of the cover up (otherwise known ass obstruction of justice)
“He said he didn’t meddle. He said he didn’t meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One as he flew from Da Nang to Hanoi in Vietnam. Trump spoke to Putin three times on the sidelines of summit here, where the Russia meddling issue arose. “Every time he sees me, he says, ‘I didn’t do that,'” Trump said. “And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it.” “I think he is very insulted by it,” Trump added.
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07-15-2018, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
that's probably it, Trump is illiterate
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After my experiences on PA, I sadly understand why people voted for Trump.
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07-15-2018, 01:45 PM
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Because he was the only alternative.
Obviously, Hillary couldn't be put in the WH. Anyone who disputes that is XXXXXXXXx (TOS prevent me from saying it!)
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07-15-2018, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing
After my experiences on PA, I sadly understand why people voted for Trump.
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You should now that he's been in office for a while now. Country is doing great. Everyone thought the world would end.
It hasn't. It's gotten better.
You should be so happy (AS I AM) that minority unemployment is at an all time low under this President. He's a President of ALL the people. EVERYONE is benefitting from his election.
The stock market took off once he was elected, and despite all the fear-mongering by certain groups, has maintained its gains and is again approaching an all-time high.
Yeah...can't understand why anyone would have voted for the guy given the world is about to end and the USA is mired in depression...
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07-15-2018, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You should now that he's been in office for a while now. Country is doing great. Everyone thought the world would end.
It hasn't. It's gotten better.
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The only thing he did so far is hand out tax dollars. Nobody can say things are really better until we find out if there will be enough tax revenue to offset the tax giveaway.
Unless, of course, one does not give a shit about Americans who need entitlement programs.
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07-15-2018, 02:47 PM
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Here is where you sound like a steenking commie.
He STOPPED STEALING OUR MONEY.
Get it right, dude.
Tax dollars are our OUR DOLLARS.
You want to save money, get rid of the idiot Mueller and save millions.
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07-15-2018, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Tax dollars are our OUR DOLLARS.
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Here is a little secret inside information. Don't tell anyone, okay?
Tariffs are taxes.
Are those our dollars too?
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07-15-2018, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Here is a little secret inside information. Don't tell anyone, okay?
Tariffs are taxes.
Are those our dollars too?
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A bit disingenuous don't you think? You were rightfully not in favor of the tax legislation if my memory serves me correctly.
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07-15-2018, 09:09 PM
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A bit disingenuous don't you think? You were rightfully not in favor of the tax legislation if my memory serves me correctly.
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I am merely pointing out the inconsistency of supporting tax cuts and new tariffs at the same time. For lower income consumers, the tariffs could more than offset the tax cuts.
I am not in favor of tax cuts without spending cuts or other more concrete evidence of avoiding increasing the deficit. Every step in that direction takes us further down the road to socialism.
But that is just raging against the setting sun. We are a social democracy, beyond the point of no return. We can only hope we don't reach the point of being qualified to join the EU, as many on the left would like.
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07-15-2018, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
I am merely pointing out the inconsistency of supporting tax cuts and new tariffs at the same time. For lower income consumers, the tariffs could more than offset the tax cuts.
I am not in favor of tax cuts without spending cuts or other more concrete evidence of avoiding increasing the deficit. Every step in that direction takes us further down the road to socialism.
But that is just raging against the setting sun. We are a social democracy, beyond the point of no return. We can only hope we don't reach the point of being qualified to join the EU, as many on the left would like.
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Wrong, all the moneys spent to this point means that there is nothing left for socialism.
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07-15-2018, 09:34 PM
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Wrong, all the moneys spent to this point means that there is nothing left for socialism.
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Over 60% of the federal budget is spent on entitlements. Total government spending at all levels, including transfer payments, are equal to over 40% of GNP. Some top earners pay over half of their income in taxes. More and more of the rules and regulations that govern our country are coming from administrative-rule making by bureaucrats, and less and less from elected legislators. That sure sounds like socialism to me.
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07-16-2018, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
The only thing he did so far is hand out tax dollars. Nobody can say things are really better until we find out if there will be enough tax revenue to offset the tax giveaway.
Unless, of course, one does not give a shit about Americans who need entitlement programs.
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By cutting tax rates, the taxpayer send less money to the government.
It is the government that confiscates citizens' income by onerous taxation.
Trump did not hand out tax dollars. The money belongs to the citizenry.
I know, all leftists believe the money raised by taxes belongs to them.
Who doesn't give a shit about entitlement? What entitlement was cut much less eliminated outright?
Stop the Occupy Stupidity rhetoric and talking points, please.
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