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08-18-2011, 03:39 PM
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Dutrow and Indian Tale (SAR Race 5)
4 races in 11 days for this 3-yo filly. I think Dutrow just broke her spirit. Looked like she wanted no part of today's turf race, and is begging for a rest.
Ocala Mike
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08-18-2011, 03:41 PM
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I tend to agree but i can't fault a trainer for running his horse in this day and age.
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08-19-2011, 09:36 AM
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Indian Tale...one tired horsie
Dutrow ran this filly at Sar on:
7Aug
11Aug
15Aug
18Aug
....and she's entered this Sunday in the Gr2 Lake Placid!...albeit as an MTO.
Whew...she ran well the first three times but didn't really show up yesterday. I hope she doesn't draw into the Sun race....no rain please.
EDIT:missed the existing thread...thx.
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Last edited by PhantomOnTour; 08-19-2011 at 09:40 AM.
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08-23-2011, 11:16 PM
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Dutrow and Indian Tale (SAR Race 5)
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08-23-2011, 11:33 PM
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Seriously? Comparing her to So You Think? The guy needs to be run out of town.
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08-23-2011, 11:36 PM
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Dutrow and other trainers do this all the time. Get a horse into a routine and assuming they have enough energy and are sound then they will run their race each time. Don't have to worry about taking 1-2 months to "recover" with 3-4 works in between that some trainers certainly like to do.
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08-23-2011, 11:36 PM
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Does racing need this guy ?...(honest to goodness question)
best,
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08-23-2011, 11:41 PM
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In OZ they prep for the (Tue.) Melbourne Cup at 2 miles by going 12f on Saturday. Australia has many preps run very close (by US standards) to the "big race."
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08-23-2011, 11:52 PM
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Did it with El Real Madrid last year racing 3 times in 8 days and won 2 of those.
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08-23-2011, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LottaKash
Does racing need this guy ?...(honest to goodness question)
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Trainers and jockeys are the most replacable people in horse racing. If any one of them retired or left the game, betting handles wouldnt budge one penny either way.
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08-24-2011, 12:08 AM
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Past five years Dutrow has sent out 139 starters on 1-9 days rest and won with 27% of them (63% ITM). Sent 59 out with max 4 days rest and won with 25%. I think he knows what he's doing.
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08-24-2011, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tbwinner
Past five years Dutrow has sent out 139 starters on 1-9 days rest and won with 27% of them (63% ITM). Sent 59 out with max 4 days rest and won with 25%. I think he knows what he's doing.
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What's his record with a horse who runs 4 times in 11 days?
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08-24-2011, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
What's his record with a horse who runs 4 times in 11 days?
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the first race of that series was for another trainer/owner
so does it still count?
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08-24-2011, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
the first race of that series was for another trainer/owner
so does it still count?
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Yes, it counts because he managed the horse while knowing when its last race for the old connections took place, so, the '11 days' is 'on him'.
He knew that the horse's 4th race (3rd for him) was in an 11 day span and he had the ability to make that not the case. He didnt go that route.
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08-24-2011, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
What's his record with a horse who runs 4 times in 11 days?
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This isn't as big a deal as you are trying to make it out to be...
If more trainers/owners weren't so indoctrinated by this "less is more" myth and gun-shy about running their horses more often, racing would be in much better shape.
I'm not saying run them four times in 11 days, but why do horses need three or four weeks of rest between their regular starts? It's absurd.
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