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06-13-2015, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chadk66
when did the jockey club start doing this? I've never heard of this before. I'm glad to see it
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doing what?
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06-13-2015, 05:39 PM
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Join Date: May 2012
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Originally Posted by Valento
Saturday, June 13, Canterbury Park Race 8 (Paul Bunyun Stakes). Karl Broberg shipped in #5 A Milky Way (7-2 morning line). It was a very evenly matched race, all looked like they had a chance.
In the gate, the #5 A Milky Way was 4-1. Mid-race, he dropped to 5-2. At the end, he was 3-2 and won like he was shot out of a canyon halfway through the race.
I'd love to know when and how much was bet late in the betting. If anyone can see this and share it, I would appreciate it.
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Here's the info on my betting site. Not a crazy amount in the pool but somebody probably put 3k or so late on him
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06-13-2015, 06:02 PM
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#18
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Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by La billos
Here's the info on my betting site. Not a crazy amount in the pool but somebody probably put 3k or so late on him
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Thanks for this. Nothing bothers me more than connections that are clearly cheating that also need to dip into the parimutuel pool and steal from players, as well.
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06-13-2015, 06:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Valento
Thanks for this. Nothing bothers me more than connections that are clearly cheating that also need to dip into the parimutuel pool and steal from players, as well.
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If you Are born to cheat, horse Racing is a great sport to get involved in, its pretty much accepted, cheaters get small wrist slaps (if that) and life goes on and so does the beat. Once in a while they single out Rick Dutrow or Roman Chapa and come down hard, but thats just for show, nothing changes.
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06-13-2015, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Donttellmeshowme
doing what?
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penalizing trainers for these types of offenses. I don't recall them ever doing that years ago.
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06-14-2015, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Benton, La.
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Broberg has to play by the same rules as everybody else. His horses all go to the same test barn. I've seen days when he couldn't buy a winner. The guy gets on a good run and everyone thinks he is cheating.
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06-14-2015, 04:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by green80
Broberg has to play by the same rules as everybody else. His horses all go to the same test barn. I've seen days when he couldn't buy a winner. The guy gets on a good run and everyone thinks he is cheating.
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This is a good point because if it wasnt for the testing in cycling, lance armstrong would have never gotten caught.
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06-14-2015, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chadk66
penalizing trainers for these types of offenses. I don't recall them ever doing that years ago.
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Great question - I'm not defending this guy for a second, but there are worse offenders -- were they prevented from registering foals with the JC? I've never seen this penalty before.
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06-14-2015, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
This is a good point because if it wasnt for the testing in cycling, lance armstrong would have never gotten caught.
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Just on a little lucky streak
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06-14-2015, 06:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
Great question - I'm not defending this guy for a second, but there are worse offenders -- were they prevented from registering foals with the JC? I've never seen this penalty before.
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definetely worst offenders-i think he has had minor drug penalties the usual bute, banamine overages but i could be wrong.
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06-14-2015, 07:08 PM
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Location: Long Beach, Ca.
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Originally Posted by woodbinepmi
Have some friends in Louisiana who believe something is not right with this, he gets a horse that will be running Beyers in the 40's next couple races they improve 20 points. Then someone will claim them and it's right back to the 40's, and his winning percentage drops as soon as he is outside Louisiana.
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PED's are in almost every sport where there is big money. You can see this at tracks all over the country. Some trainers are better at hiding it that others. It's another factor you have think about when handicapping.
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06-14-2015, 10:12 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donttellmeshowme
definetely worst offender...but i could be wrong.
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So which is it?
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06-14-2015, 10:51 PM
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#28
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by green80
Broberg has to play by the same rules as everybody else. His horses all go to the same test barn. I've seen days when he couldn't buy a winner. The guy gets on a good run and everyone thinks he is cheating.
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A good run? Wow.
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06-14-2015, 11:24 PM
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Location: Saratoga, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by green80
Broberg has to play by the same rules as everybody else. His horses all go to the same test barn. I've seen days when he couldn't buy a winner. The guy gets on a good run and everyone thinks he is cheating.
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6 out of 10 is a good run, 60 out of a 100 turns the spotlight upon you
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06-14-2015, 11:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Milkshaker
So which is it?
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which is what? i said there are worst offenders than him.
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