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06-04-2020, 09:10 AM
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#526
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gelding
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06-04-2020, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by delayjf
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Hard to claim systemic racism in view of the above numbers.
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it is easy for hcap
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06-04-2020, 09:34 AM
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#528
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Quote:
Originally Posted by delayjf
from the article:
Hard to claim systemic racism in view of the above numbers.
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Theres not much to say to someone who denies there is any systemic racism in the U.S. You must have a lot invested in keeping that opinion, so I'll leave you to it.
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06-04-2020, 10:25 AM
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#529
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Join Date: May 2010
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Sea changes in society the last decade.
The acceptance of gay marriage and now the acceptance in white America of the existence of systemic racism.
Stay tuned - November may bring another one if the complacency in the electorate disappears.
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06-04-2020, 10:32 AM
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#530
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Are people seriously acting like this has never happened before in modern times?
LA RIOTS...1992...hello?
What kind of revisionist history is being attempted NOW? I lost count LONG ago.
Despite my claim yesterday, y'all (see what I did there) are not actually idiots. So it must be something else. I know!
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06-04-2020, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clicknow
Theres not much to say to someone who denies there is any systemic racism in the U.S. You must have a lot invested in keeping that opinion, so I'll leave you to it.
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The white man who killed 9 black people in cold blood during a religious meeting in a South Carolina church wasn't due to systemic racism?
Last edited by highernote; 06-04-2020 at 10:46 AM.
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06-04-2020, 11:25 AM
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#532
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Location: Baystater
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“If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 50 years ago, a liberal 25 years ago and a racist today.”
― Thomas Sowell
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06-04-2020, 11:38 AM
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#533
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ocala Mike
the acceptance in white America of the existence of systemic racism.
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Black leaders have come out against the rioting and what has been done to their cities. this is a disgrace. And has to stop.
But what also has to stop: I've gotten to see TWO incidents discussed of late here already, first with Ahmed Arbery, now with George Floyd, where everything starts out okay.....
..THEN the posts start coming in discrediting the victims: "Oh, he was tresspassing!". "Oh, he was resisting arrest and a drug user!."
And yet, when the video came out we had sheriffs in houston, tennesee, georgia, southern states, multiple sheriffs all denouncing what they saw during that arrest.
I watch a video where a guy was saying all this... that the excuses about streesful job doesn't cut it........that teachers in inner city schools are also under a lot of stress, but if they strangled a student, and then the superintendant held a press conference "oh we've put the teacher on admin. leave, blah blah blah BUT the student in question was known for some pretty serious incidences of bathroom graffiti and fighting on school bus".....people would go nuts. And if it happened more than once? Egads.
He said "Hey how come people don't talk about how much black people DON'T RIOT?"
And then I see that black analyst on Fox News breaking down, describing what its like to wake up every day, as a black man. "For a lot of African Americans in this country, they feel that being black is a curse. It’s a curse because before you know my name, before you know the content of my character, before you know my moral compass, I’m already considered a threat to you.”
ISN'T THIS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BIRD WATCHER GUY IN CENTRAL PARK when that awful lady called him in to 911?
.....and there are still people saying there is no systemic racism in America.
And of course they've done themselves no good by rioting and looting....and all the right and left wing anarchists that are egging it on. they are very wrong very wrong very wrong to act like this.
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06-04-2020, 11:58 AM
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Mad as hell !
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Bridgeport, CT
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The Abner Louima case in 1997 was the most startling and disgusting act by police officers. From that time on, my opinion of the police has changed. There are some sick individuals in the police force that abuse their authority . Now, I respect the law, but find it hard to respect police officers as a group. Individually each must prove himself to me.
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06-04-2020, 12:04 PM
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#535
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Join Date: May 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Are people seriously acting like this has never happened before in modern times?
LA RIOTS...1992...hello?
What kind of revisionist history is being attempted NOW? I lost count LONG ago.
Despite my claim yesterday, y'all (see what I did there) are not actually idiots. So it must be something else. I know!
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quoting tweets from twits that were not alive 30 years ago is a FanDan mainstay
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06-04-2020, 12:04 PM
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#536
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clicknow
Black leaders have come out against the rioting and what has been done to their cities. this is a disgrace. And has to stop.
But what also has to stop: I've gotten to see TWO incidents discussed of late here already, first with Ahmed Arbery, now with George Floyd, where everything starts out okay.....
..THEN the posts start coming in discrediting the victims: "Oh, he was tresspassing!". "Oh, he was resisting arrest and a drug user!."
And yet, when the video came out we had sheriffs in houston, tennesee, georgia, southern states, multiple sheriffs all denouncing what they saw during that arrest.
I watch a video where a guy was saying all this... that the excuses about streesful job doesn't cut it........that teachers in inner city schools are also under a lot of stress, but if they strangled a student, and then the superintendant held a press conference "oh we've put the teacher on admin. leave, blah blah blah BUT the student in question was known for some pretty serious incidences of bathroom graffiti and fighting on school bus".....people would go nuts. And if it happened more than once? Egads.
He said "Hey how come people don't talk about how much black people DON'T RIOT?"
And then I see that black analyst on Fox News breaking down, describing what its like to wake up every day, as a black man. "For a lot of African Americans in this country, they feel that being black is a curse. It’s a curse because before you know my name, before you know the content of my character, before you know my moral compass, I’m already considered a threat to you.”
ISN'T THIS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BIRD WATCHER GUY IN CENTRAL PARK when that awful lady called him in to 911?
.....and there are still people saying there is no systemic racism in America.
And of course they've done themselves no good by rioting and looting....and all the right and left wing anarchists that are egging it on. they are very wrong very wrong very wrong to act like this.
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I say we put all white people into concentration camps. And we put all white cops into double-secret concentration camps.
There...problem sol-ved.
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06-04-2020, 12:14 PM
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#537
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clicknow
Theres not much to say to someone who denies there is any systemic racism in the U.S. You must have a lot invested in keeping that opinion, so I'll leave you to it.
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Last night in Brooklyn, Two officers shot, one stabbed. The real numbers are stacking up.
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06-04-2020, 12:19 PM
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Mad as hell !
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Bridgeport, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I say we put all white people into concentration camps. And we put all white cops into double-secret concentration camps.
There...problem sol-ved.
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There you go again! Jumping on people with some wise-assed comment ! (of course, isn't that what the internet is all about). Talk sense !
Last edited by Nutz and Boltz; 06-04-2020 at 12:20 PM.
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06-04-2020, 12:21 PM
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#539
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Without factoring in inner city violence, poverty and generally a worse educational background than whites, not to mention the first sin of the U.S., slavery, and slavery's 200 year legacy, you seem to be implying a racist explanation.
What is going on now is another story that needs telling.
https://www.statista.com/chart/21872...ack-americans/
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Your reply has nothing to do with my question (post 519).
I don't blame you. Black on black violence and murder is rampant. It's not a good look on your agenda.
Fetch the numbers I asked for, please. If it's too embarrassing for you, just say so
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06-04-2020, 12:28 PM
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#540
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutz and Boltz
There you go again! Jumping on people with some wise-assed comment ! (of course, isn't that what the internet is all about). Talk sense !
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Drastic times call for drastic measures, don't you think?
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