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Tom · 06-01-2020, 05:53 PM

About 5:20 mark on - looks clearly to be Murder 1.
He looks to be in distress LONG before he was moved across the street. Once across, you can see him FALL DOWN outside the car CLEARLY, in distress.

They called EMS but STILL kept him pinned down.
The one cops says get up and get in the car.
Floyd says I WILL

CLEARLY I WILL I CAN'T MOVE

At 5:39 - you can see the Killer Cop INCREASE the pressure and Floyd SCREAMS "MAMA, MAMA.........16 times he tells them he cannot breath. 16 times!

All the cops, not just the 4, include the ones who later REFUSE to tell the FIREMEN where he has gone or what his condition was, PREVENTING them from assisting the paramedics.

Where are the body cam videos?
They need to be show so that everyone can see what scumbag killers ALL the cops on scene are. ALL need to fired and charged. ALL of the.

The face of a mad man......who must be executed.

PaceAdvantage · 06-01-2020, 06:09 PM

It's fitting his badge is crooked in that shot...along with the crazy eyes.

Greyfox · 06-01-2020, 06:15 PM

That's hard to watch.
All 4 Officers need to be charged. What's the delay?

wisconsin · 06-01-2020, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyfox

That's hard to watch.
All 4 Officers need to be charged. What's the delay?

Must be careful not to over-charge, has to be the right charge that will stick in a juror's mind. Or the riots will be far worse if they were to somehow be acquitted.

clicknow · 06-02-2020, 06:41 AM

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That's hard to watch.
All 4 Officers need to be charged. What's the delay?

We devolve into a police state, hundreds of people, maybe thousands, are going to be hurt, under curfews, and possibly trigger a race war....

... but they won't arrest these 4 officers, as should have been done already.

Unreal.

highernote · 06-02-2020, 07:03 AM

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Must be careful not to over-charge, has to be the right charge that will stick in a juror's mind. Or the riots will be far worse if they were to somehow be acquitted.

Also, it might be difficult to get a fair trial. How many people have seen that video and already made up their minds?

clicknow · 06-02-2020, 08:45 AM

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Also, it might be difficult to get a fair trial. How many people have seen that video and already made up their minds?

They can find some people living under a rock for jurors, but once they see that video my thought is they're going to come back pretty quickly w/a verdict.

So they WILL get a "fair" trial after all.

metro · 06-02-2020, 09:32 AM

Floyd had been arrested before, not sure why he picked that day to resist the commands of getting into the cruiser. He didn't deserve to die but it was his decision to not comply with the officers who were just trying to do their jobs. Had he gotten into the cruiser and gone through the same arrest process he had been through before he would be alive today.

Greyfox · 06-02-2020, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by metro

Floyd had been arrested before, not sure why he picked that day to resist the commands of getting into the cruiser. He didn't deserve to die but it was his decision to not comply with the officers who were just trying to do their jobs. Had he gotten into the cruiser and gone through the same arrest process he had been through before he would be alive today.

Didn't the video show that the police had him in the cruiser at one point and they pulled him out to the ground?

Nutz and Boltz · 06-02-2020, 10:35 AM

There are only 5 people who know what really transpired that evening....and one of them is dead. He's the only one that would have "alternate facts" about it.

Marshall Bennett · 06-02-2020, 10:54 AM

The look on the cops face at 5:58 of the video is that of a mad man.
He should never be set free to the public again!!

metro · 06-02-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Greyfox

Didn't the video show that the police had him in the cruiser at one point and they pulled him out to the ground?

Floyd was a big man that had mostly cooperated up to the point that they tried to get him into the cruiser. Under normal circumstances it doesn't take more than one officer to assist a suspect getting into a cruiser, obviously 4 of them couldn't get Floyd in though.

What I don't believe is that these officers, especially Chauvin, showed up to work with the intent on taking someone's life. They should be held accountable for their actions but when you are dealing with someone who refuses to comply with laws, that most of rest of us comply with, obviously things can get sideways.

OntheRail · 06-02-2020, 12:50 PM

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Floyd was a big man that had mostly cooperated up to the point that they tried to get him into the cruiser. Under normal circumstances it doesn't take more than one officer to assist a suspect getting into a cruiser, obviously 4 of them couldn't get Floyd in though.

What I don't believe is that these officers, especially Chauvin, showed up to work with the intent on taking someone's life. They should be held accountable for their actions but when you are dealing with someone who refuses to comply with laws, that most of rest of us comply with, obviously things can get sideways.

Bullshit.... they had him in the back of the car all they had to do was shut the doors. But no Chauvin yanks him thru and perches on his neck with two other kneeling on him to the left. He showed no thought of humanity towards Floyd... no on the contrary it looks like he enjoyed and took pleasure in his action. He also seemed to have a high number of filled complaints 17 I'm sure there were many more unreported or unrecorded. It was right call to charge him with murder the others should be charged with accessory to. The police union it as much to blame as anyone for the state of overall image of the police. They stand behind bad actors instead of allowing them to be removed.

That being said the burning and looting over the past week is also not justified... it to needs to end.

JustRalph · 06-02-2020, 01:13 PM

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and possibly trigger a race war....

Get real......this is going to hurt blacks for the next ten years.

There is no war worth fighting for the blacks. The institutions will just set them back at least a decade. Business institutions especially

clicknow · 06-02-2020, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by metro

Floyd had been arrested before, not sure why he picked that day to resist the commands of getting into the cruiser. He didn't deserve to die but it was his decision to not comply with the officers who were just trying to do their jobs. Had he gotten into the cruiser and gone through the same arrest process he had been through before he would be alive today.

And then Chauvin (or some officer like him) would have just done this to someone else down the line.

Floyd would be alive, but someone else might not be.

You don't get it.