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Old 05-19-2016, 02:26 PM   #16
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Do you really think track is the example you want to use of a clean sport? Maybe you don't know much about track but two seconds of research will find rumors of cheating and blood doping against virtually any top runner---same as we get here against virtually every top trainer.
I have no idea how my post suggests in any way that track & field is a clean sport. The point-- which I think is fairly obvious-- was to show just how prevalent cheating is in track & field and to ask why anyone thinks it's different in horse racing given how these supertrainers have popped up all over the place in the past 15 years or so.
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Old 05-19-2016, 04:19 PM   #17
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I'll say this, Diodoro wins more races in the race office than anyone I know. Especially at turf paradise and Canterbury.
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:27 PM   #18
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Trainers who place their horses in the right spot at the right--or one step lower than the right price will do better than those who think all their horses are the next coming of Secretariat or Zenyatta and run 2-3 levels too high.
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:38 PM   #19
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Yes, and a very poor average field size at Emerald so the win rates will be higher for everyone than at most tracks. Metz doesn't make me shake my head at all. Diodoro, on the other hand, is in the same bin as Broberg, Navarro, Preciado, etc...
Agreed pal. But since field size has increased at EMD, Metz is batting 11%.

These other juicers overcome anything. It's 1 reason I targeted EMD, no juice heads. Just handicapping.

And since Couton wasn't around for the first 5 weeks of the meet, there wasn't a single race, where my gut said : What a fix/stiff etc.

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Old 05-19-2016, 07:39 PM   #20
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Really? thanks for sharing your negativity.
Where are the rest of your posts about other negative comments?
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:24 PM   #21
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Yes, and a very poor average field size at Emerald so the win rates will be higher for everyone than at most tracks. Metz doesn't make me shake my head at all. Diodoro, on the other hand, is in the same bin as Broberg, Navarro, Preciado, etc...
Speaking of Broberg, he's going to have a string at Canterbury.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:29 PM   #22
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I know , I'm biased but EMD is pretty much supertrainer free. You don't see magical move up there. There are some hot trainers but that's because their shoppers are just better.
Weren't you ripping EMD last year and swearing off ever playing there again? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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Yeah, these 25%+ trainers do it all with hay and oats.

As I have an interest in human running, I thought I'd pass on this graphic of the women's 1500m finalists from the 2012 Olympics. If horse racing had any real integrity and was serious about testing for PED's, this is what would happen to the supertrainers.

http://runningmagazine.ca/womens-150...lympic-doping/
Things have changed. Times are slower than they were 10 years ago. It's taking raciing longer to clean up than it took those other sports.
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Weren't you ripping EMD last year and swearing off ever playing there again? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Yes, that was me. Simply because of Julien Couton and "I got caught at the gate with a battery Jake Barton".

Both clowns were away for the 1st 4 weeks of the meet.

Not one race was "peculiar", so far this year.

Both are back now. We'll see.

P.S. I call it like it is. No biased opinions here. If the racing is great, I say it. If all off a sudden someone is stiffing horses, I say it.

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Yes, that was me. Simply because of Julien Couton and "I got caught at the gate with a battery Jake Barton".

Both clowns were away for the 1st 4 weeks of the meet.

Not one race was "peculiar", so far this year.

Both are back now. We'll see.

P.S. I call it like it is. No biased opinions here. If the racing is great, I say it. If all off a sudden someone is stiffing horses, I say it.
All opinions are biased, that's why they call them opinions not facts.
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All opinions are biased, that's why they call them opinions not facts.
Doubt there is anyone in America who watches, studies, reviews, documents, analyzes Emerald more than me.
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Yes, that was me. Simply because of Julien Couton and "I got caught at the gate with a battery Jake Barton".

Both clowns were away for the 1st 4 weeks of the meet.

Not one race was "peculiar", so far this year.

Both are back now. We'll see.

P.S. I call it like it is. No biased opinions here. If the racing is great, I say it. If all off a sudden someone is stiffing horses, I say it.

Buzzer Barton....what a joke. No surprise to see him turn up at Turf Paradise. Caught in the gate with a buzzer should have been lifetime ban. Sad part is the track where he got caught at he was back riding at years later. A leopard doesn't change his spots.
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Buzzer Barton....what a joke. No surprise to see him turn up at Turf Paradise. Caught in the gate with a buzzer should have been lifetime ban. Sad part is the track where he got caught at he was back riding at years later. A leopard doesn't change his spots.
Well, at least we know when someone like Roman Chapa makes a return, where they will go
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