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11-01-2019, 08:25 PM
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Eddie O and the pay-offs...was not happy
So Breeder's cup races in general bring inflated prices...which was the case today for several races....but in the Juvy....WAY UNDER....he pointed out the exacta being off by 40%...like $600 worth...I thought the Superfecta was EXTREMELY light as well...
very strange...somebody made out well
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11-01-2019, 08:44 PM
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People overestimate the exotics when you have an 8-horse field. If this is a 12-horse field, then maybe. But you're going to get people taking a shot at payoffs in a race like this. Did you really expect a $1600 exacta in an 8-horse field? I doubt there are many of them in the country during the year. I don't see the need for a conspiracy when it paid near $1K.
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11-01-2019, 08:46 PM
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Good move by NBC - pepper the broadcast with reminders of horse deaths and then top it off with insinuations of race fixing.....GREAT JOB!!!!
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11-01-2019, 08:52 PM
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At least they didn't show any protestors. Were there any?
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11-01-2019, 09:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Good move by NBC - pepper the broadcast with reminders of horse deaths and then top it off with insinuations of race fixing.....GREAT JOB!!!!
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I watched on RTN almost the entire day. I tuned in for one race on NBC and they started a segment about the "official drink" of the Breeders' Cup, trying to be like the Triple Crown races. I watched for about 30 seconds, and then...
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11-01-2019, 09:39 PM
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It was a small field.
The whole day was up with races that I thought were iffy. Syndicates I suppose, which would also speak to the lower than expected payoffs with real long shots.
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11-01-2019, 09:41 PM
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I would also say with the way they have made this track almost synthetic "like" we may see continued chaos in the dirt races.
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11-01-2019, 09:56 PM
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The notion that network television is not going to do a thing on horse deaths when the industry was stupid enough to keep this thing at Santa Anita is ludicrous.
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11-01-2019, 09:58 PM
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They seemed way short to me given the odds of the horses that finished top 3.
I thought the exacta should have paid twice what it paid ($1=$488).
The trifecta only paid $3900 per $1. I would have expected more with a 35-1 shot in 3rd.
The money was spread around a lot more in the exotics than the win odds IMO.
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11-01-2019, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DGroundhog
They seemed way short to me given the odds of the horses that finished top 3.
I thought the exacta should have paid twice what it paid ($1=$488).
The trifecta only paid $3900 per $1. I would have expected more with a 35-1 shot in 3rd.
The money was spread around a lot more in the exotics than the win odds IMO.
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syndicates probably had the race a lot more even than the betters then hammered the likely combinations that the general public would not have been to keen on.
I am sure if they viewed Eight Rings suspect, which off that last work a lot were, and with the 1 post anything goes wrong out of the gate which does happen and you get results that are a lot more easily to explain.
The 7 was actually a horse I think people thought could run well.
Its always easier in hindsight but I dont think it was too much a streetch to get past the top two.
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11-01-2019, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
I watched on RTN almost the entire day. I tuned in for one race on NBC and they started a segment about the "official drink" of the Breeders' Cup, trying to be like the Triple Crown races. I watched for about 30 seconds, and then...
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11-01-2019, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
syndicates probably had the race a lot more even than the betters then hammered the likely combinations that the general public would not have been to keen on.
I am sure if they viewed Eight Rings suspect, which off that last work a lot were, and with the 1 post anything goes wrong out of the gate which does happen and you get results that are a lot more easily to explain.
The 7 was actually a horse I think people thought could run well.
Its always easier in hindsight but I dont think it was too much a streetch to get past the top two.
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Eight Rings was in a good spot to win it, but after she tired the rest of the speed held up. I'm probably going to play some speed tomorrow based off that result.
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11-01-2019, 10:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DGroundhog
Eight Rings was in a good spot to win it, but after she tired the rest of the speed held up. I'm probably going to play some speed tomorrow based off that result.
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I thought the track played fair. I do think there are going to be some horses that just do not like it which is not something you usually have to worry about Santa Anita which always been a pretty neutral surface.
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11-01-2019, 10:59 PM
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I would also say with the way they have made this track almost synthetic "like" we may see continued chaos in the dirt races.
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Yes it's been pretty much like quicksand for almost the last 3 years 
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11-01-2019, 11:04 PM
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Yes it's been pretty much like quicksand for almost the last 3 years |
Yea but they really added the water to the sand this time.
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