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View Poll Results: Are you against anti-panhandling laws?
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100% Against the Law - Just wrong.
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75% - I lean against this law.
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50% - Undecided.
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75% - I lean towards this law.
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100% For - I'm completely for the law.
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04-04-2018, 10:39 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,910
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Poll: Should Panhandling Be Illegal?
Our local newspaper (Reno, NV) had an article this morning advising of a new city ordinance making panhandling illegal on or near a public street.
What do you think of this law?
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04-04-2018, 10:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,972
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Our local newspaper (Reno, NV) had an article this morning advising of a new city ordinance making panhandling illegal on or near a public street.
What do you think of this law?
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so now they will be in front of businesses
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04-04-2018, 10:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 46,883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Our local newspaper (Reno, NV) had an article this morning advising of a new city ordinance making panhandling illegal on or near a public street.
What do you think of this law?
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Is the city of Reno going to make up for lost revenue to the panhandlers? Or is Reno just pulling the usual liberal stunt of kicking the can down the road?
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04-04-2018, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrhorseplayer
so now they will be in front of businesses
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Like casinos and hotels?
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04-04-2018, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,972
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Like casinos and hotels?
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look at freemont st area or cheyenne/rainbow area
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04-04-2018, 11:00 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,972
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Like casinos and hotels?
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not sure how close to a public street the casinos are in reno.
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04-04-2018, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Is the city of Reno going to make up for lost revenue to the panhandlers? Or is Reno just pulling the usual liberal stunt of kicking the can down the road?
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So, you see this as something liberals would be in favor of?
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04-04-2018, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,149
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It should be illegal but maybe not always strictly enforced. It is a public nuisance and does tie in with broken window syndrome
https://www.britannica.com/topic/broken-window
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04-04-2018, 11:16 AM
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#9
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
Posts: 12,696
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I am kind of on the fence. It depends on the reason. If it is somebody pan handling to buy alcohol to get drunk and becoming a chronic pest in front of a mini-mart and pestering the customers I say it should be against the law. A guy traveling with his family a distance from home who was robbed just looking for gas and food money to get home should be ok.
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04-04-2018, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 15,123
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Do they want to get rid of those displays in stores that ask for change to help whatever cause or person that needs the help? Or how about the "Go Fund Me" stuff. That is panhandling, but in a different presentation.
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04-04-2018, 11:28 AM
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#11
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Our local newspaper (Reno, NV) had an article this morning advising of a new city ordinance making panhandling illegal on or near a public street.
What do you think of this law?
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Got an article?
I've never had a problem with it regardless of reason... a lot are junkies and alcoholics but if people want to give them money...?
I'd be open to hearing reasons on both sides.
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04-04-2018, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 16,487
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Having lived in both the Chicago area and Bay area, I've noticed the San Francisco homeless are much more aggressive in their panhandling than are the Chicagoans.
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04-04-2018, 11:47 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Washoe County, Nevada
Posts: 2,253
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The ordinance as described in the article seems fairly specific and makes it illegal for pedestrians to “stop, stand, or remain in raised traffic islands or medians, except when waiting to cross a roadway at the next signal or when traffic clears.” I’m not at all clear how this stops panhandling on a public street.
It seems specifically designed to stop people from panhandling on a raised median in the middle of traffic.
I know that a fundraiser for MDA is quoted in the article as fearing this will cause solicitations they conduct with help from the local fire department to drop but so long as the fundraiser (or panhandler) is on the sidewalk, it doesn’t seem to me they are impacted at all by the new ordinance.
30 days of warnings and education about the new law. After that, it’s a traffic citation. No one gets arrested.
This looks to be a narrow rule designed to alleviate a specific problem. I’m still not sure it’s a big enough issue that I would have worried about it enough to pass a new law. But I’d defer to local law enforcement who asked for it to solve what they saw as a public safety issue.
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04-04-2018, 11:55 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Washoe County, Nevada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Got an article?
I've never had a problem with it regardless of reason... a lot are junkies and alcoholics but if people want to give them money...?
I'd be open to hearing reasons on both sides.
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https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2018/...nts/475053002/
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04-04-2018, 01:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston , Tx.
Posts: 9,588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Got an article?
I've never had a problem with it regardless of reason... a lot are junkies and alcoholics but if people want to give them money...?
I'd be open to hearing reasons on both sides.
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I have no problem with them if they're quiet and non-aggressive. When you're dirt poor you do whatever you have to do. Doubt many are junkies, certainly not if they need to finance an addiction. Spare change won't do it As for alcohol, I'd think food would take priority. People would be more generous with someone that looks hungry than drunk, at least I know I would.
There will always be exceptions, but for the most part panhandlers aren't mean spirited and not begging to generate any sense of pride or joy.
At least in this country in most cases, it would be embarrassing and desperation. Otherwise they're probably crazy and need help in other ways.
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