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05-09-2014, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DeanT
Horse racing does not seem to be about competing, but bonding together to get as much as everyone can now.
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You are a knowledgeable person of this industry and whose opinion I respect.
The statement above is certainly moving in this direction.
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05-09-2014, 04:19 PM
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#212
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Originally Posted by wonatthewire1
Churchill and Arlington were not available yesterday here in NJ via TVG; perhaps there are some other issues out there as well. I sent an email to TVG but did not get a response but it was around 4:45pm
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Maybe CD not making their signal available so they'll have a built in excuse as to why handle dropped? They're not going to ever admit it was because bettors were smart and stayed away, so they need some other reason, this might be the reason.
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05-09-2014, 04:46 PM
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#213
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Maybe CD not making their signal available so they'll have a built in excuse as to why handle dropped? They're not going to ever admit it was because bettors were smart and stayed away, so they need some other reason, this might be the reason.
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Not available today either - none of the CD owned tracks (CD, Arlington or Calder) are on the menu. NJ Bets is run by TVG & is the only ADW we can use in the state
We were able to bet on all 3 tracks up until last Sunday. No response to my inquiry from yesterday.
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05-09-2014, 05:58 PM
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#214
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wonatthewire1
Not available today either - none of the CD owned tracks (CD, Arlington or Calder) are on the menu. NJ Bets is run by TVG & is the only ADW we can use in the state
We were able to bet on all 3 tracks up until last Sunday. No response to my inquiry from yesterday.
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Send your email to comments@TVG.com they don't answer any other address
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05-09-2014, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by affirmedny
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Hey Affirmedny, that is the one I used from the site. They probably aren't contracted right now, normally we'll get it back but just don't know when.
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05-10-2014, 12:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riskman
You are a knowledgeable person of this industry and whose opinion I respect.
The statement above is certainly moving in this direction.
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I think we're seeing more and more of it, of late, for sure. I went through the Asian gaming and racing summit presentations this past week and it is a different world out there. I think I heard the words 'bettor', 'wagering' and 'growing the pie through the customer' a thousand times. We need more of that here, imo.
Thanks for the nice words.
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05-10-2014, 05:08 AM
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When there are many tracks with specialist info available then what's the use of them raising takeout precentage ?
There is a world wide conspiracy afoot however to rob punters.
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05-11-2014, 06:17 PM
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Churchill had a brutal week. Handle down about 25% today, I know there was an issue with N.J. earlier this week, but I believed it's been resolved.
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05-11-2014, 07:13 PM
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Strange type of sitiuation.
Churchill Downs are not the one and only race track in America -apart of Kentucky day of course that attracts attention from all over the world.
So it's a control experiment.
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05-11-2014, 09:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronsmac
Churchill had a brutal week. Handle down about 25% today, I know there was an issue with N.J. earlier this week, but I believed it's been resolved.
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Ending May 3, article:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/der...ace-2014-05-03
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Originally Posted by from Marketwatch
DERBY WEEK WRAP-UP
All-sources handle for Opening Night, Saturday, April 26, through Derby Day, Saturday, May 3, 2014, was $253.8 million, down 2 percent from 2013's $258.5 million. Attendance for those five days was up 5 percent to 348,530 from 331,922 in 2013.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by from Marketwatch
Churchill Downs returned $147.8 million to bettors, which amounts to 79 percent of total wagering on the Derby Day race card. Additionally, purses earned from the Derby Day race card approximated $9.5 million that will be paid out to horsemen during the remainder of the 2014 racing meets.
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Any way you look at it, lot of money spent for what 1 week? ...
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05-11-2014, 10:35 PM
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It's a control experiment.
Prohibitionists and money grabbers bandied together.
Some people are saying "the conservatives will save the day because they stand for the free economy and are against excessive taxation".
Some other people are saying "the socialists are those who will save the day because they stand for the people and do not tolerate injustices".
But we are getting the worst of both worlds.
Madame Mao and Frau Himmler in the same boat.
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05-12-2014, 09:40 AM
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Only made one single wager at Chrurchill from Friday to Sunday-- because of their take-out increase. In past years.... I would have made forty or so on three cards.... My personal $ handle has moved to the lower take-out pools at Momouth, Belmont or Gulfstream.
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05-12-2014, 09:50 AM
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#223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmicway
It's a control experiment.
Prohibitionists and money grabbers bandied together.
Some people are saying "the conservatives will save the day because they stand for the free economy and are against excessive taxation".
Some other people are saying "the socialists are those who will save the day because they stand for the people and do not tolerate injustices".
But we are getting the worst of both worlds.
Madame Mao and Frau Himmler in the same boat.
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Politics or horse racing, that is the question ???????
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05-12-2014, 11:48 AM
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playersboycott tweeted out the numbers for the post-derby CD handle week.
https://twitter.com/playersboycott/s...73153424887808
"CD handle - Thursday down 46%, Friday down 29%, Saturday down 39% and Sunday down 25% when compared to 2013."
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05-12-2014, 12:07 PM
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#225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeanT
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Churchill got nothing to worry about, they will make it up on the parking
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