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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Let me make it simple enough for even the CANADIANS to understand: No one is saying that Barr is necessarily misrepresenting the report, or that Mueller is now colluding with Trump. But a 4-page summary is a poor representation of a 300 page report...and the public deserves the more-thorough package.
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No, it is a perfect summary. It is not a representation.
The whole thing is going to be released, Barr said that already.
There are legal concern - he CANNOT just release it as is.
The congress and the people will get to see it - it has been two years in the makin, now two weeks is too long?
Here is an even better summary
No collusion
Time to move on.
Problem for the dems is, the y have NOTHING to move on to! 
The Green New Deal, stupid candidates, 3 old white guys leading the polls.....the dems are DESPERATE! All the bravado and.....NO COLLUSION.
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03-29-2019, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Barr is going to review the report with Mueller and the Special Counsel before submitting to Congress. You know, that Special Counsel with 17 registered Democrats on it.
The WH will not get any preview until it is released to Congress. I can only assume the pencil-necked geek crowd of Schiffs still won't find that acceptable.
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Barr stated that Mueller's investigation "did not establish" that Trump's campaign conspired with the Russians before the election. But Barr also said that Mueller "did not reach a conclusion" on whether Trump obstructed justice...and that raises certain questions...IMO. Did Mueller not have enough TIME to odder a more complete assessment of this case? Is "obstruction of justice" an offence that's UNWORTHY of a "special prosecutor's" attention? If Mueller won't comment on the obstruction of justice matter...then, who will?
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03-29-2019, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Barr stated that Mueller's investigation "did not establish" that Trump's campaign conspired with the Russians before the election. But Barr also said that Mueller "did not reach a conclusion" on whether Trump obstructed justice...and that raises certain questions...IMO. Did Mueller not have enough TIME to odder a more complete assessment of this case? Is "obstruction of justice" an offence that's UNWORTHY of a "special prosecutor's" attention? If Mueller won't comment on the obstruction of justice matter...then, who will?
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BARR!!!!! and he did. 
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03-29-2019, 05:38 PM
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We'll see. A similar statement to this was made by Trump about his tax returns...but it didn't exactly work out that way.  |
He said 'once they are done with his IRS audit'. It sounds like he has been under audit in some business or other for the last 10 years.
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03-29-2019, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wisconsin
Stop making stuff up. You have to let it go now. It's ok.
Your side is the group shitting bricks now. Good luck.
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They've pulled so much shit out their asses they have no control left.... and are oblivious to sound of their shit bricks tumbling to the ground.
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03-29-2019, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Barr stated that Mueller's investigation "did not establish" that Trump's campaign conspired with the Russians before the election. But Barr also said that Mueller "did not reach a conclusion" on whether Trump obstructed justice...and that raises certain questions...IMO. Did Mueller not have enough TIME to odder a more complete assessment of this case? Is "obstruction of justice" an offence that's UNWORTHY of a "special prosecutor's" attention? If Mueller won't comment on the obstruction of justice matter...then, who will?
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Laying aside the legal dynamics if a President can be charged with obstruction for exercising Constitutional powers or if there was an existing investigation to obstruct.
Maybe because Mueller realized he had a conflict of interest. see http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=138934
The obstruction concept is based on Comey's firing. Mueller cannot be involved in deciding if the firing of his friend is illegal.
Mueller also had another conflict his boss, Asst. A.G. Rosenstein, wrote the memo calling for the firing of Comey. Is Mueller going to charge his boss with obstruction of justice?
Another interesting question is why Mueller did not use the standard guidelines of the DoJ to determine obstruction? Why did Mueller disregard DoJ guidelines? This important question needs to be answered.
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03-29-2019, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Let me make it simple enough for even the CANADIANS to understand: No one is saying that Barr is necessarily misrepresenting the report, or that Mueller is now colluding with Trump. But a 4-page summary is a poor representation of a 300 page report...and the public deserves the more-thorough package.
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I would give you points for this fine response, but I'm afraid that would make your total go down...instead of up.
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03-29-2019, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Barr stated that Mueller's investigation "did not establish" that Trump's campaign conspired with the Russians before the election. But Barr also said that Mueller "did not reach a conclusion" on whether Trump obstructed justice...and that raises certain questions...IMO. Did Mueller not have enough TIME to odder a more complete assessment of this case? Is "obstruction of justice" an offence that's UNWORTHY of a "special prosecutor's" attention? If Mueller won't comment on the obstruction of justice matter...then, who will?
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It was a joint release by Barr and Rosenstein.
Are you trying to tell me that Rosenstein is a bought and paid for Trumper now?
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03-29-2019, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
It was a joint release by Barr and Rosenstein.
Are you trying to tell me that Rosenstein is a bought and paid for Trumper now?
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I suspect more like a knife to his back, sign it or go to jail. Wait, is that the strategy dims use?
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03-29-2019, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
It was a joint release by Barr and Rosenstein.
Are you trying to tell me that Rosenstein is a bought and paid for Trumper now?
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No...
Ripping on LEOs doing their job is a Trumpist thing now. Suddenly Rosenstein is "A Okay" in their book now... 
Jokes.
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03-30-2019, 12:37 AM
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No...
Ripping on LEOs doing their job is a Trumpist thing now. Suddenly Rosenstein is "A Okay" in their book now...
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The amount of Reynolds Wrap the Maddow 6 rolls through in a given month has to be close to the weight of a Volkswagen.
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03-30-2019, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
The amount of Reynolds Wrap the Maddow 6 rolls through in a given month has to be close to the weight of a Volkswagen.
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Put the bottle down.
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03-30-2019, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by barn32
I would give you points for this fine response, but I'm afraid that would make your total go down...instead of up.
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Thanks for the laugh. It's worth more than the points to me. 
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03-30-2019, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Put the bottle down.
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03-30-2019, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Barr stated that Mueller's investigation "did not establish" that Trump's campaign conspired with the Russians before the election.
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We do have pretty strong evidence for collusion with the Russians. An aspiring presidential candidate DID seek electoral help from Moscow.
Wrong election, however.
Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit
Where's a Special Counsel when you REALLY need one?
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