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Old 04-16-2019, 10:21 PM   #271
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It doesn't matter if the election is held today or in November 2020, if Trump runs he'll win 35-40 states.

The only problem is that Mitch McConnell has already gone on record suggesting to GOP incumbents running in 2020 to run away from Trump and the Trump Agenda.

This stupidity caused the GOP to lose their majority in the House in 2018 and will result in a GOP bloodbath in 2020.
I can't find anything about this revelation (at least, to me), Reckless. Please expand on this comment. Thanks.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:53 PM   #272
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The problem with ALL Democrat candidates is that they're open borders. They're basically saying "Yes, please come invade us."

Bernie Sanders said he was against open borders, but I doubt that would hold if he became President. He'd probably fall in line with the rest of them.

Not caring about securing the border is absolute lunacy on the left's part, and unfortunately anyone on the left who wants a secure border will be called racist.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:04 PM   #273
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The problem with ALL Democrat candidates is that they're open borders. They're basically saying "Yes, please come invade us."

Bernie Sanders said he was against open borders, but I doubt that would hold if he became President. He'd probably fall in line with the rest of them.

Not caring about securing the border is absolute lunacy on the left's part, and unfortunately anyone on the left who wants a secure border will be called racist.
they need new voters to win long term
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:00 PM   #274
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When someone is asked a direct question, I expect a direct answer, and I would not let it go, until I got a direct answer. Is that too much to ask? Your insinuation about about it not being partisan enough for me is your skewed slant...as usual.

I already posted my idea for government involvement in American healthcare. So now, tell us what is your idea for government involvement in healthcare, and what is your "easy way to pay for it"?
Isn't funny when you do not run with his terms he hides.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:03 PM   #275
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MargieRose is right. Tell us the "easy way" to pay for the healthcare elysian.
We already spend $4 Trillion on healthcare a year.

If you did away with private insurance. Increased FICA taxes to compensate for it.

Graduated M4A coinsurance on a age basis like regular insurance does 60/40 for 20s and 30s 70/30 for 40s and 50s then 80/20 like regular its pretty easy.

If nobody is paying for private insurance it creates quite a bit of money.

You're going to have a ton of other problems with M4A but the cost isn't the prohibitive factor.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:10 PM   #276
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No one wants to give up insurance they get from the employer, when these threads started here we had 170 million Americans getting insurance from the employer and now today we have 190 million getting it from the employer. Just tell us all why we would trade our hand for yours.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:17 PM   #277
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No one wants to give up insurance they get from the employer, when these threads started here we had 170 million Americans getting insurance from the employer and now today we have 190 million getting it from the employer. Just tell us all why we would trade our hand for yours.
What are you talking about?

The only thing I was saying is cost isn't a good argument against M4A. We can easily afford it if we wanted to.

Personally you're on the verge of being disingenuous with wanting to kill Obamacare while arguing in favor of your private employer mandated coverage. Obamacare goes away you will undoubtedly lose benefits your employer is currently required to provide under the law.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:18 PM   #278
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Only if the bank wants to look at them. They usually don't.
Need them for audits.

Make sure we aren't committing fraud.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:16 PM   #279
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What are you talking about?

The only thing I was saying is cost isn't a good argument against M4A. We can easily afford it if we wanted to.

Personally you're on the verge of being disingenuous with wanting to kill Obamacare while arguing in favor of your private employer mandated coverage. Obamacare goes away you will undoubtedly lose benefits your employer is currently required to provide under the law.
Not my sandbox guy, I have always gone with big company's who have good plans. I admit I know less about what others are stuck with in non experienced job roles. And I think this country can go from 190 million to the 200 million before President Trump get elected for his second term. Granted as I type this I hear today NK has launched its missile today and your going to be full blast in another thread.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:22 PM   #280
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Graduated M4A coinsurance on a age basis like regular insurance does 60/40 for 20s and 30s 70/30 for 40s and 50s then 80/20 like regular its pretty easy.
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Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is M4A insurance? Google doesn't seem to know either.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:24 PM   #281
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Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is M4A insurance? Google doesn't seem to know either.
I got it. You're talking Medicare for all which half the country doesn't want.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:27 PM   #282
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I got it. You're talking Medicare for all which half the country doesn't want.
190 Million people want what they have, Ely could not sell cold water in the desert.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:41 PM   #283
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Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is M4A insurance? Google doesn't seem to know either.
Medicare 4 All...

Its the abbreviation the internet has decided.
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A socialist wet dream. M4A is dead in the water.
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:20 PM   #285
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I can't find anything about this revelation (at least, to me), Reckless. Please expand on this comment. Thanks.
It was said in conversation between Lou Dobbs and Ed Rollins that McConnell is advising Senate GOP incumbents/candidates to run away from Trump, Margie.
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