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Old 11-06-2012, 01:41 PM   #961
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Yes E-traveller, but putting down a motion for debate with the WTO is the correct channel to pursue any such complaint.
However, making a public and populist tirade against another global power and name-calling that sovereign State for electioneering purposes is not the way to do things. It's not statesman-like. It's pretty puerile, tbh.
Wars have started over less.


So he should just say nothing about it...? He is running for president you know? Furthermore, the whole "wars have started over less" is a infantile scare tactic. There is not risk of war between both countries.

America and China are more co-dependent on eachother than Willie Nelson and his Pot Dealer.

What should he say about China? Nothing?
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:44 PM   #962
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Yes E-traveller, but putting down a motion for debate with the WTO is the correct channel to pursue any such complaint.
However, making a public and populist tirade against another global power and name-calling that sovereign State for electioneering purposes is not the way to do things. It's not statesman-like. It's pretty puerile, tbh.
Wars have started over less.
That currency manipulator label is largely symbolic, but it isn't "just talk" by Romney -- it is an official government designation, like "favored trading partner" or like when they label a group to be "terrorist". It then allows the government to take certain prescribed actions according to law. So he isn't just name-calling and shooting his mouth off, he is talking about policy.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:05 PM   #963
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line update from thegreek.com: democrats now -$360-$100, was -$400
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:10 PM   #964
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I wagered on Obama at -200 after the first debate for a buck and a half profit. I also laid -165 for some chump change several months ago. I'll be surprised if I lose. Looking at this race as a citizen is rather depressing to my emotional state of being. Kind of a lose/lose situation. But my inner gambler sees this as a good spot to allow the day to pass with some positive emotion attached to it. I'm one for one with election bets. I played G. Bush -170 vs Kerry in 2004.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #965
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I wagered on Obama at -200 after the first debate for a buck and a half profit. I also laid -165 for some chump change several months ago. I'll be surprised if I lose. Looking at this race as a citizen is rather depressing to my emotional state of being. Kind of a lose/lose situation. But my inner gambler sees this as a good spot to allow the day to pass with some positive emotion attached to it. I'm one for one with election bets. I played G. Bush -170 vs Kerry in 2004.
i remember 2004 like it was yesterday. i saw Bush go from -$170 to +$250 when the wrong info came in with the exit polls.

a poster here was getting mad with the changes and questioning the validity or meaning of the line. people are now betting based on what the exit polls are coming in now. obviously the exit polling is finding that the vote for Obama is not coming in as strong as they had expected. yet still not enough information to flip flop favorites. someone bet some heavy duty money on Obama at 9:00 a.m. today and he must be pretty nervous right now. i know i would be !
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:33 PM   #966
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Some money for Romney

Romney getting support now, down to mostly +300.
Obama anywhere between -500 to -400
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:44 PM   #967
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update from thegreek.com: democrats now -$380-$100, was -$360
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:22 PM   #968
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i remember 2004 like it was yesterday. i saw Bush go from -$170 to +$250 when the wrong info came in with the exit polls.

a poster here was getting mad with the changes and questioning the validity or meaning of the line. people are now betting based on what the exit polls are coming in now. obviously the exit polling is finding that the vote for Obama is not coming in as strong as they had expected. yet still not enough information to flip flop favorites. someone bet some heavy duty money on Obama at 9:00 a.m. today and he must be pretty nervous right now. i know i would be !
There is no exit poll data and there won't be until the polls close.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:34 PM   #969
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There is no exit poll data and there won't be until the polls close.
There is exit poll data, just not publicly released data.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:37 PM   #970
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This might be generally interesting on Intrade here for some.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/intrader/ins...litical-market


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Old 11-06-2012, 04:45 PM   #971
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as of 4:15 EST, thegreek.com has taken the election line off the board.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:48 PM   #972
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back on the board with the same price: democrat -$380-$100
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:51 PM   #973
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back on the board with the same price: democrat -$380-$100
Thanks. I just wanna let you know, we're all counting on you.

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Old 11-06-2012, 04:54 PM   #974
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Thanks. I just wanna let you know, we're all counting on you.

Yeah, and I wonder who's gonna be crash landing later tonight?
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:03 PM   #975
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Lines on swing states

Florida -200 Rep
Virginia -225 Dem
Ohio -450 Dem
Wisconsin -700 Dem
Colorado -250 Dem
Nevada -1000 Dem
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