Morning Lines...A help or hinderance?

[misscashalot]

How important are morning lines to you?

[Pcon04]

very!!! can't play w/o it...

pcon

[bisket]

they give a good guideline to go by as far as odds are concerned. they are helpful, but they aren't always correct

[Overlay]

Originally Posted by misscashalot

How important are morning lines to you?

Morning lines are neither a help nor a hindrance to me, since I pay no attention to them. For me, only actual odds have a bearing on locating wagering value.

[illinoisbred]

Originally Posted by Overlay

Morning lines are neither a help nor a hindrance to me, since I pay no attention to them. For me, only actual odds have a bearing on locating wagering value.

Same here.I'd be quite happy in fact if no such thing existed.

[BELMONT 6-6-09]

The morning line is very important for me in that I can get a fairly accurate view of the horses the public generally will side with and the selections that can be generally overlooked.

This is my only amunition when playing with the handicap of not knowing closing odds which is roughly 70% of the time. For me I make this process work the overwhelming majority of times..yes their are races where you get fooled but nothing is 100% anyway.

[Imriledup]

An ML can hurt you if the ML maker makes a mistake on a live runner that he lines too high. If there's a horse who's 8-1 ML who figures to go off at 3-1, that runner might go off 2-1 because players will be salivating the night before and once they are locked into their 'best bet' they don't change too often.

Players will be salivating thinking they're going to get 8-1 on a horse they love, when in reality, its a 3-1 shot that the ML maker messed up and lined too high.

[Run Nicholas Run]

Very Important to myself.
I use the ml to toss horses who are either
the mlf or 15-1 and up as the longshots
win only about 6 % of the time.
After these tosses , out go the low percentage riders
and then I have the 3 or 4 contenders and then use the
rest of the percentages in my favor.

[Tom]

Hardly ever look them.

[classhandicapper]

I hardly ever look at them, but if anything they are probably a hindrance because if I notice that a particular horse is long or short it may give me some kind of preconceived notion about is ability before I actually start digging in.

[raybo]

I use the M/Line ranking, coupled with tote action within the last 5 mtp for my most lucrative spot play, concerning the win spot on my superfecta tickets. Although these spot play horses hit at around 40%, at pt odds between 4/1-8/1, it hinges on the track(s) line setter(s) and the public's faith in him/her. It works at the tracks I wager on, so, that's good enough for me.

These "recipe horses", as I call them, produce some very good superfecta payouts, especially if the favorite finishes down the ticket. If the fav misses the top 4 completely it can make your whole meet (or your whole year).

[cmoore]

I hardly ever pay attention to the ML odds..Actually, I print my pps without them..But my software has them. So I can't ignore them totally..

[HUSKER55]

I don't use them to make my picks. I like to "steer my own ship". I do however use them to decide on who is takeing on real money and who is not.

One poster on another thread sumed it up very well. A horse that drops from 5 to 1 down to 5/2 at 2 min to post took on more money than a 20/1 that drops to 10/1.

But that is just me.

[fmolf]

I only use them in two instances....a race with a lot of first time starters...i look for horses being bet down from the morning line.Secondly I find it a little bit helpful if i am at a strange track or betting a strange track and am not very familiar with the horses or trainers

[kitts]

Morning Line is important to me making betting decisions in the morning but I always spend time convincing myself that it is somewhat accurate.