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07-05-2016, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
attendance was 21k yesterday with 1.3m bet  |
They always do big business on July 3rd. I assume the special 4 PM post time has a lot to do with it. So why don't they try it more often?
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07-05-2016, 07:15 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Originally Posted by therussmeister
They always do big business on July 3rd. I assume the special 4 PM post time has a lot to do with it. So why don't they try it more often?
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I would assume it is the fireworks show afterward more than the racing itself. Probably get a fair number of once a year bettors for that day.
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07-05-2016, 07:55 AM
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NoPoints4ME
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Why not do a 4 pm post with fireworks afterwards more often? 
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07-05-2016, 09:19 AM
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#184
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i'm sure both helped a bunch
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07-05-2016, 09:36 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Originally Posted by chadk66
i'm sure both helped a bunch
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The 4 pm start was only for the fireworks. The crowd was all for the fireworks. 21K with 1.3 million bet total. On track was 464k. That's a little more than $20 a person. I love this track and do play it as I find it very formful, but let's be real about what is happening here. They lowered the take considerably. Everyone cheered, and then they just kept betting at the same places they always did. 2 months in and this track is losing money still. They did what we keep clamoring for and they are losing money. If people don't start taking interest in this track, this experiment will fail and it will be that much harder to have anyone lower take in the future. Sorry if no one wants to hear this but it is what is happening.
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07-05-2016, 09:42 AM
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NoPoints4ME
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I normally dont play CBY that often but I wagered about 7500 here in June. Its important to support something like this. You are 100% right OTMAL
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07-05-2016, 11:00 AM
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Out-of-town Jasper
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Originally Posted by OTM Al
I would assume it is the fireworks show afterward more than the racing itself. Probably get a fair number of once a year bettors for that day.
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No, that's not my point. They get a huge amount of out-of-state handle on these days. Much more than a typical Sunday.
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07-05-2016, 11:07 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Originally Posted by therussmeister
No, that's not my point. They get a huge amount of out-of-state handle on these days. Much more than a typical Sunday.
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800K off track. Guess it's huge for them so maybe the 4pm (CT) start helps with that though clearly not the intent. Of course Churchill, "the great enemy", was up 3.8% during much the same period and averaged over 10 million a day, though that is skewed greatly by Oaks/Derby weekend. Still, bet they did way better than 1.3 million every day of their meet.
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07-05-2016, 02:43 PM
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Al speaks the truth here.
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07-05-2016, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OTM Al
The 4 pm start was only for the fireworks. The crowd was all for the fireworks. 21K with 1.3 million bet total. On track was 464k. That's a little more than $20 a person. I love this track and do play it as I find it very formful, but let's be real about what is happening here. They lowered the take considerably. Everyone cheered, and then they just kept betting at the same places they always did. 2 months in and this track is losing money still. They did what we keep clamoring for and they are losing money. If people don't start taking interest in this track, this experiment will fail and it will be that much harder to have anyone lower take in the future. Sorry if no one wants to hear this but it is what is happening.
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yes I agree with all that but some of those 21k will turn into regulars. You can go anywhere for fireworks
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07-05-2016, 03:53 PM
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Fireworks at the track...now there's a boneheaded concept if there ever was one...
Nothing like huge booms to keep already easily spooked animals tranquil in their tiny stalls... 
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07-05-2016, 04:02 PM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Originally Posted by chadk66
yes I agree with all that but some of those 21k will turn into regulars. You can go anywhere for fireworks
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They have a lot of people that are regulars there. It is a fun place to go. There ain't a whole lot else around there. But most of them don't spend on betting. Here's some comments from people on Tripadvisor from 2013 if you want a feel for what the general audience is that goes to this track
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUser...Minnesota.html
I love the one that thinks the food is pricey.
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07-05-2016, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Fireworks at the track...now there's a boneheaded concept if there ever was one...
Nothing like huge booms to keep already easily spooked animals tranquil in their tiny stalls... |
Plus, it's not like there's any flammable material at racetracks or that they ever catch fire or something....
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07-05-2016, 04:06 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Fireworks at the track...now there's a boneheaded concept if there ever was one...
Nothing like huge booms to keep already easily spooked animals tranquil in their tiny stalls... |
That skipped my mind....Great point!
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07-05-2016, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OTM Al
They have a lot of people that are regulars there. It is a fun place to go. There ain't a whole lot else around there. But most of them don't spend on betting. Here's some comments from people on Tripadvisor from 2013 if you want a feel for what the general audience is that goes to this track
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUser...Minnesota.html
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I know all about it I spent eight years there training horses
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