Guy on the Track during GG Turf Race

[whodoyoulike]

Saw the video, where was the timer located, underground?

[jimmyb]

YouTube

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by cj

You guys are complete loons IMO. The story given was completely plausible and in fact true. Believe what you want.

Yes, it's plausible to kneel in front of something that will run you over instead of getting the hell out of the way. Seriously?

Why won't you expound on this if you talked to the person? What did he give as the explanation for such an inexplicable reaction?

[NorCalGreg]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Ok.

Are you suggesting I move so you can feel better about my posts and opinions?

Or are you simply auditioning for a spot in PA's tri monthly "stir it up" stipends?

I'm suggesting 99% of you fakes living in wealthy, lily-white Marin County would call this "wonderfully diverse"---as long as they don't move into your town.

[whodoyoulike]

Originally Posted by jimmyb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTPn6hQThWM

I also recall another incident which was at Dmr where a drunk guy ran onto the track in the stretch and took a swing at one of the horses. Neither he nor the horse got hurt. He was just lucky.

[cj]

Summary:

Guy working on timing system doesn't realize race is on turf course.

Guy hears or sees horses coming and reacts late, curls in a ball, and luckily gets out unscathed.

People at PA watch 5 second grainy video and conclude guy tried to commit suicide and/or has substance abuse problems despite a plausible and reasonable explanation being put out almost immediately after the race from a respected reporter.

SRU, without even reading the story, chimes in to further add to the conspiracy theories, posting just to post as he often does.

I'm called a troll for pointing out the lunacy of those conclusions.

Sound about right?

[Jeff P]

Originally Posted by cj

Summary:

Guy working on timing system doesn't realize race is on turf course.

Guy hears or sees horses coming and reacts late, curls in a ball, and luckily gets out unscathed.

People at PA watch 5 second grainy video and conclude guy tried to commit suicide and/or has substance abuse problems despite a plausible and reasonable explanation being put out almost immediately after the race from a respected reporter.

SRU, without even reading the story, chimes in to further add to the conspiracy theories, posting just to post as he often does.

I'm called a troll for pointing out the lunacy of those conclusions.

Sound about right?

In my mind the relevant questions are:

a. Who put him in harm's way/allowed him to remain where he was while horses were warming up for an upcoming turf race?

b. How the hell do the stewards, outriders, riders who are warming horses up on the dirt before crossing over onto the turf course not see him/realize that he's on the turf course?

c. Will this be talked about publicly at one of the upcoming CHRB meetings? Only to become just another example of something gone awry that gets swept under the rug?



-jp

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[cj]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

In my mind the relevant questions are:

a. Who put him in harm's way/allowed him to remain where he was while horses were warming up for an upcoming turf race?

b. How the hell do the stewards, outriders, riders who are warming horses up on the dirt before crossing over onto the turf course not see him/realize that he's on the turf course?

c. Will this be talked about publicly at one of the upcoming CHRB meetings? Only to become just another example of something gone awry that gets swept under the rug?



-jp

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No problem with those at all. There are definitely should people that should have some explaining to do. What I have a problem with was the sudden leap to suicide attempt / substance abuser.

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by cj

Summary:

Guy working on timing system doesn't realize race is on turf course.

Guy hears or sees horses coming and reacts late, curls in a ball, and luckily gets out unscathed.

People at PA watch 5 second grainy video and conclude guy tried to commit suicide and/or has substance abuse problems despite a plausible and reasonable explanation being put out almost immediately after the race from a respected reporter.

SRU, without even reading the story, chimes in to further add to the conspiracy theories, posting just to post as he often does.

I'm called a troll for pointing out the lunacy of those conclusions.

Sound about right?

He didn't curl up in a ball. He kneeled. He did zero to protect his head or chest. Had he curled up into a ball we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

He didn't curl up in a ball. He kneeled. He did zero to protect his head or chest. Had he curled up into a ball we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The video from the side looks like he thought he was clear but once the wide horses came he curled up. The video isn't that great so I'm not positive.

Regardless, I find the leap to conclusions here ridiculous. I doubt a guy working on the timing system has gone through classes on how to react if a group of horses is charging at you. Sometimes people freeze in dangerous situations. It doesn't mean he was high or intending to kill himself.

[EasyGoer89]

Originally Posted by cj

Summary:

Guy working on timing system doesn't realize race is on turf course.

Guy hears or sees horses coming and reacts late, curls in a ball, and luckily gets out unscathed.

People at PA watch 5 second grainy video and conclude guy tried to commit suicide and/or has substance abuse problems despite a plausible and reasonable explanation being put out almost immediately after the race from a respected reporter.

SRU, without even reading the story, chimes in to further add to the conspiracy theories, posting just to post as he often does.

I'm called a troll for pointing out the lunacy of those conclusions.

Sound about right?

There's no 'conclusions' we are still unsure what happened. Some of us aren't buying the 'official story' the way it was presented. Why would you point out 'lunacy' for people questioning official accounts?

[cj]

Originally Posted by EasyGoer89

There's no 'conclusions' we are still unsure what happened. Some of us aren't buying the 'official story' the way it was presented. Why would you point out 'lunacy' for people questioning official accounts?

Because the questioning is based on nothing other than wild ass speculation. You didn't even bother reading the official story so WTF would you know?

[EasyGoer89]

Originally Posted by cj

Because the questioning is based on nothing other than wild ass speculation. You didn't even bother reading the official story so WTF would you know?

I watched the incident before I heard 'what happened' and came to the conclusion that the persons body language and actions didn't come across like someone shocked that horses were bearing down on him, he acted like he was resigned to the fact he was going to get hit, he turned around and sat down quietly w back of his head exposed, who does that?

So I expected to hear something different 'officially' and when I didn't, I decided I wasn't convinced.

Why is that lunacy?

[cj]

Originally Posted by EasyGoer89

I watched the incident before I heard 'what happened' and came to the conclusion that the persons body language and actions didn't come across like someone shocked that horses were bearing down on him, he acted like he was resigned to the fact he was going to get hit, he turned around and sat down quietly w back of his head exposed, who does that?

So I expected to hear something different 'officially' and when I didn't, I decided I wasn't convinced.

Why is that lunacy?

I would guess because you're a lunatic?

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by EasyGoer89

I watched the incident before I heard 'what happened' and came to the conclusion that the persons body language and actions didn't come across like someone shocked that horses were bearing down on him, he acted like he was resigned to the fact he was going to get hit, he turned around and sat down quietly w back of his head exposed, who does that?

So I expected to hear something different 'officially' and when I didn't, I decided I wasn't convinced.

Why is that lunacy?

Maybe he was wearing earbuds and felt the ground shake as the horses came upon him, thus his late roll and tuck....