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12-23-2018, 09:09 AM
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Paulick:Japanese bettors bet $393 million on 1 race, the G1 Arima Kinen, at Nakayama
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12-23-2018, 11:40 AM
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Very limited betting options in Japan (could change in next few years with the arrival of casinos). I don't believe takeout is particularly low in Japan? 20%ish?
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12-23-2018, 01:02 PM
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Beat up 💪
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
Very limited betting options in Japan (could change in next few years with the arrival of casinos). I don't believe takeout is particularly low in Japan? 20%ish?
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The Japanese are Jone'zen for action.
There are four public sports (kōei kyōgi) allowed for pari-mutuel betting under Japanese law. These are horse racing (keiba), keirin (bicycle racing), powerboat racing (kyōtei), and autorace (asphalt speedway motorcycle racing). These are wagered using betting pools where 75% of the prize pool is returned to gamblers using a totalisator (tote-board) system.
Last edited by cj; 12-23-2018 at 01:09 PM.
Reason: Political correctness.
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12-23-2018, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuss
The Japanese are Jone'zen for action.
There are four public sports (kōei kyōgi) allowed for pari-mutuel betting under Japanese law. These are horse racing (keiba), keirin (bicycle racing), powerboat racing (kyōtei), and autorace (asphalt speedway motorcycle racing). These are wagered using betting pools where 75% of the prize pool is returned to gamblers using a totalisator (tote-board) system.
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363 million into a 25 rake, dumb
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12-23-2018, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
363 million into a 25 rake, dumb
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It's not just the take. It's pool size, field size, and takeout, not necessarily in that order IMO.
Last edited by Andy Asaro; 12-23-2018 at 01:38 PM.
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12-23-2018, 01:37 PM
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Beat up 💪
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
363 million into a 25 rake, dumb
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The 363 million similar to what we see here when Power Ball pools blow up... The people who never wager anything jump in. Its an eye-popping number none the less.
Last edited by Suff; 12-23-2018 at 01:39 PM.
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12-23-2018, 05:58 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Where are you guys finding 25%. That seems really high, can't find it anywhere.
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12-23-2018, 06:26 PM
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Beat up 💪
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Where are you guys finding 25%. That seems really high, can't find it anywhere.
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https://www.onlinebetting.com/legal/japan-3/
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All races regardless of their track, type, organiser, grade or any other factor pay 75% of the betting pool to betting winners. The remaining 25% goes towards paying government taxes, the winners of the race, operating costs etc. and what is left over is the organisers profit. Again this is big money business in Japan. In 2011 JRA races had ¥2.3 trillion in betting turnover and NAR had ¥314.9 billion. In United States dollar (USD) that’s a combined $29.18 billion in annual legal horse race betting turnover.
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12-23-2018, 08:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Where are you guys finding 25%. That seems really high, can't find it anywhere.
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I think it's been 25% for a long time. It hurts the low takeout theories when you see their handle.
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