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Old 01-05-2022, 01:03 PM   #31
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This kind of stuff is over my head. I can't tell whether he's interpreting it correctly or not, but if he is the vaccine should be halted, and if he's not, someone better explain this....

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/...Ol-tqtjAaniPM0

Take a look at the data from Pfizer's clinical vaccine trial submitted to the FDA.

Imo, it literally could have been used to predict the results in the study from your post:

CH7 Israel National News | Nov 17 2021
FDA report finds all-cause mortality higher among vaccinated:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/317091

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FDA report shows Pfizer's clinical trials found 24% higher all-cause mortality rate among the vaccinated compared to placebo group. Report emphasizes that "None of the deaths were considered related to vaccination."
PDF at the FDA.gov site:
https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download

According to CH7 Israel National News, data submitted to the FDA from Pfizer's own clinical vaccine trial shows the following:

• 22,000 cohorts were given two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

• 22,000 cohorts were given a placebo.

There were 3 COVID deaths among the study cohorts.

• 1 in the vaccinated group.

• 2 in the placebo group.

So twice as many COVID deaths among the placebo group.

Imo, based on that, the FDA committee voted to approve the Pfizer vaccine.

But that only gives you part of the big picture.

Buried on page 23 on the FDA's report of Pfizer's clinical vaccine trial data (link here) you can find the following:

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From Dose 1 through the March 13, 2021 data cutoff date, there were a total of 38 deaths, 21 in the COMIRNATY group and 17 in the placebo group. None of the deaths were considered related to vaccination.
• 21 all causes deaths among the vaccinated group.

• 17 all causes deaths among the placebo group.

So 23.5% higher all causes deaths among the vaccinated group. And the FDA claims the excess deaths in the vaccine group aren't related to vaccination.

I'm not buying that last part for a second.

The original table of all causes deaths submitted to the FDA by Pfizer (see the clickable thumbnail below) which I took a screenshot of but can no longer seem to find on the PDF at the FDA.gov site shows the following breakout of cardiac deaths:

• 4 cardiac arrests in the vaccinated group.
• 1 cardiac failure congestive in the vaccinated group.
• 1 cardio-respiratory arrest in the vaccinated group.
• 1 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in the vaccinated group.

• 1 cardiac arrest in the placebo group.
• 0 cardiac failure congestive in the placebo group.
• 1 cardio-respiratory arrest in the placebo group.
• 0 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in the placebo group.

So 7 cardiac deaths in the vaccinated group and 2 cardiac deaths in the placebo group.

Or 3.5 times the number of cardiac deaths in the vaccinated group vs. the placebo group.



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Take a look at the data from Pfizer's clinical vaccine trial submitted to the FDA.

Imo, it literally could have been used to predict the results in the study from your post:

CH7 Israel National News | Nov 17 2021
FDA report finds all-cause mortality higher among vaccinated:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/317091



PDF at the FDA.gov site:
https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download

According to CH7 Israel National News, data submitted to the FDA from Pfizer's own clinical vaccine trial shows the following:

• 22,000 cohorts were given two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

• 22,000 cohorts were given a placebo.

There were 3 COVID deaths among the study cohorts.

• 1 in the vaccinated group.

• 2 in the placebo group.

So twice as many COVID deaths among the placebo group.

Imo, based on that, the FDA committee voted to approve the Pfizer vaccine.

But that only gives you part of the big picture.

Buried on page 23 on the FDA's report of Pfizer's clinical vaccine trial data (link here) you can find the following:



• 21 all causes deaths among the vaccinated group.

• 17 all causes deaths among the placebo group.

So 23.5% higher all causes deaths among the vaccinated group. And the FDA claims the excess deaths in the vaccine group aren't related to vaccination.

I'm not buying that last part for a second.

The original table of all causes deaths submitted to the FDA by Pfizer (see the clickable thumbnail below) which I took a screenshot of but can no longer seem to find on the PDF at the FDA.gov site shows the following breakout of cardiac deaths:

• 4 cardiac arrests in the vaccinated group.
• 1 cardiac failure congestive in the vaccinated group.
• 1 cardio-respiratory arrest in the vaccinated group.
• 1 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in the vaccinated group.

• 1 cardiac arrest in the placebo group.
• 0 cardiac failure congestive in the placebo group.
• 1 cardio-respiratory arrest in the placebo group.
• 0 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in the placebo group.

So 7 cardiac deaths in the vaccinated group and 2 cardiac deaths in the placebo group.

Or 3.5 times the number of cardiac deaths in the vaccinated group vs. the placebo group.



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Saw this on another board I post on, it's great info. Thanks for posting, everyone should read
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Take a look at the data from Pfizer's clinical vaccine trial submitted to the FDA.

Imo, it literally could have been used to predict the results in the study from your post:

CH7 Israel National News | Nov 17 2021
FDA report finds all-cause mortality higher among vaccinated:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/317091



PDF at the FDA.gov site:
https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download

According to CH7 Israel National News, data submitted to the FDA from Pfizer's own clinical vaccine trial shows the following:

• 22,000 cohorts were given two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

• 22,000 cohorts were given a placebo.

There were 3 COVID deaths among the study cohorts.

• 1 in the vaccinated group.

• 2 in the placebo group.

So twice as many COVID deaths among the placebo group.

Imo, based on that, the FDA committee voted to approve the Pfizer vaccine.

But that only gives you part of the big picture.

Buried on page 23 on the FDA's report of Pfizer's clinical vaccine trial data (link here) you can find the following:



• 21 all causes deaths among the vaccinated group.

• 17 all causes deaths among the placebo group.

So 23.5% higher all causes deaths among the vaccinated group. And the FDA claims the excess deaths in the vaccine group aren't related to vaccination.

I'm not buying that last part for a second.

The original table of all causes deaths submitted to the FDA by Pfizer (see the clickable thumbnail below) which I took a screenshot of but can no longer seem to find on the PDF at the FDA.gov site shows the following breakout of cardiac deaths:

• 4 cardiac arrests in the vaccinated group.
• 1 cardiac failure congestive in the vaccinated group.
• 1 cardio-respiratory arrest in the vaccinated group.
• 1 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in the vaccinated group.

• 1 cardiac arrest in the placebo group.
• 0 cardiac failure congestive in the placebo group.
• 1 cardio-respiratory arrest in the placebo group.
• 0 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in the placebo group.

So 7 cardiac deaths in the vaccinated group and 2 cardiac deaths in the placebo group.

Or 3.5 times the number of cardiac deaths in the vaccinated group vs. the placebo group.



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Thank you for doing this analysis. Certainly doesn't pass the smell test.
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Old 05-21-2022, 08:25 PM   #34
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They absolutely should, Ralph. That means they won't.
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:23 PM   #36
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The official narrative will continue along the "safe and effective", "keep up to date with boosters to ward off the Cooties", and "there's a pandemic, ya know....".

All lies.

CDC data indicated early on 99.74% of people contracting Covid survived. If you were under 80 years old and not in a nursing home, the odds were better than that. There was, and still is, no pandemic.

The only thing dangerous about Covid is that it appears to be a man-made virus, found outside of nature, with long-term effects unknown.

Natural immunity effectiveness outranks The Jabs, as some of the SARS victims retained antibodies and resistance for more than a decade past infection. The Jabs - well, ask the Jabbers who've contracted it 3 or 4 times.

While .gov and Big Pharma insist the danger remains, they are doing their best to muddy the waters between the effects of the Jabs and contracting Covid itself. The true numbers can never be ascertained, considering the "two week" rule from Jab to cause of death, considering the control group in the trials was Jabbed, and considering the money at stake.

There will probably never be an honest reckoning of the guilty, but if there was it would dwarf the trials at Nuremberg by 1000 times.
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Here's the peer reviewed study mentioned in the tweet Ralph posted above.

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Association of Cerebral Venous Thrombosis with mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines: A Disproportionality Analysis of the World Health Organization Pharmacovigilance Database:
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/10/5/799/htm

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by Jin Park, Moo-Seok Park, Hyung Jun Kim, and Tae-Jin Song*

Department of Neurology, Seoul Hospital, Ewha Womans University College of Medicine, 260 Gonghang-daero, Gangseo-gu, Seoul 07804, Korea

*Author to whom correspondence should be addressed.

Academic Editors: Antonella Caputo and François Meurens

Vaccines 2022, 10(5), 799; https://doi.org/10.3390/vaccines10050799

Received: 30 March 2022 / Revised: 13 May 2022 / Accepted: 15 May 2022 / Published: 18 May 2022
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Cerebral venous thrombosis (CVT), a rare thrombotic event that can cause serious neurologic deficits, has been reported after some ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccinations against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). However, there are few reports of associations between COVID-19 mRNA vaccination and CVT. We retrospectively analyzed CVT occurrence, time of onset after vaccination, outcomes (recovered/not recovered), and death after COVID-19 vaccination from adverse drug reactions (ADR) reports in VigiBase. A disproportionality analysis was performed regarding COVID-19 mRNA vaccines (BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273) and the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine. We identified 756 (0.07%) CVT cases (620 (0.05%) after BNT162b2 and 136 (0.01%) after mRNA-1273) of 1,154,023 mRNA vaccine-related ADRs. Significant positive safety signals were noted for COVID-19 mRNA vaccines (95% lower end of information component = 1.56; reporting odds ratio with 95% confidence interval (CI) = 3.27). The median days to CVT onset differed significantly between the BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccines (12 (interquartile range, 3–22) and 11 (interquartile range, 7–16), respectively; p = 0.02). Fewer CVT patients died after receiving mRNA vaccines than after receiving the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine (odds ratio, 0.32; 95% CI, 0.22–0.45; p < 0.001). We noted a potential safety signal for CVT occurrence after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination. Therefore, awareness about the risk of CVT, even after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination, is necessary.
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3. Results

On 30 September 2021, 1513 ADR cases (0.09%) of CVT out of 1,730,636 reports were observed for the mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines (BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273) and the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine. Of these, ADRs of CVT were reported as 756 (0.07%) out of 1,154,023 cases for the mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines (620 (0.05%) for BNT162b2 and 136 (0.01%) for mRNA-1273) and 757 (0.13%) out of 577,124 cases for the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine.
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More than 90% of the patients were in serious condition, and 33% did not recover or died. The outcome of death after CVT was significantly higher in patients who received the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine than in those who received the mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines (odds ratio (OR) = 0.32; 95% CI, 0.22–0.45; p < 0.001). In pairwise comparisons of the different types of vaccines, vaccination with ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 more often led to death after CVT than vaccination with BNT162b2 (OR = 0.35; 95% CI, 0.25–0.50; p < 0.001) or mRNA-1273 (OR = 0.18; 95% CI, 0.07–0.44; p < 0.001)
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Figure 2. Disproportionality analysis between mRNA-based vaccines and the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine to compare cerebral venous thrombosis occurrence in vaccinated individuals with the entire VigiBase database. The information component (IC) and reporting odds ratio (ROR) were calculated for the disproportionality analysis. In this forest plot, overall COVID-19 vaccines showed significantly positive associations with cerebral venous thrombosis by IC025 (2.01) and ROR025 (5.14).

Figure 2 at the above link presents both ADR/Adverse Drug Reaction and CVT/Cerebral Venous Thrombosis comparison of Covid Vaccines vs. ALL DRUGS IN THE ENTIRE WHO DATABASE.

These are the numbers for ADR/Adverse Drug Reaction:
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Covid Vaccines: 1,730,636
All Drugs:     27,370,413
These are the numbers for CVT/Cerebral Venous Thrombosis:
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Covid Vaccines: 1,513
All Drugs:      5,615
I don't know how many thousands of different drugs are being tracked in the WHO Database and for how many years.

But the data from the study shows:

1. Covid Vaccines account for 6.32 percent of all ADR/Adverse Drug Reactions in the WHO Database.

2. Covid Vaccines account for 26.95% of all CVT/Cerebral Venous Thrombosis or Vein(s) in the Brain blocked by Blood Clot(s) in the WHO Database.

Imo, THAT is an astounding number.

Breaking the data from Figure 2 in the study out into two categories: Covid Vaccine vs. Non-Covid Vaccine makes this next observation easier to see.

Here's what the data looks like after doing that:

Covid Vaccine ADR and CVT stays the same:
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ADR:  1,730,636
CVT:      1,513
Non-Covid Vaccine ADR and CVT looks like this:
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ADR: 25,639,777
CVT:      4,102
The likelihood of suffering a CVT after a non-Covid Vaccine Adverse Drug Reaction is 4,102/25,639,777 = 1.5999e-4 or 1.5999 in 10,000.

The likelihood of suffering a CVT after a Covid Vaccine Adverse Drug Reaction is 1,513/1,730,636 = 8.7425e-4 or 8.7425 in 10,000.

Put another way:

You are 5.46 times more likely to suffer a CVT after Covid Vaccine Adverse Reaction than after Adverse Reaction for ALL DRUGS IN THE ENTIRE WHO DATABASE THAT AREN'T COVID VACCINES.

Imo, THAT is also an astounding number.


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Thanks for posting that Jeff.

Unfortunately, it won't matter to many people.

COVID, apparently, was the number 1 killer of people anywhere, at anytime, in any era, and any risks either real or imagined associated with the vaccine are WORTH IT to save humanity...so just shut up already.... (I'm kidding about the shutting up part)
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when you lose your medical certification based on North Korea-style propaganda tactics, it doesn't count

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You do realize that one of the reasons doctors and scientists that disagree with the approved narrative are afraid to speak out is because their career will be destroyed?
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It’s got the date and time on it.

Last I looked she is still certified

What the hell does that have to do with study?
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Nothing. That doesn't concern a well-educated man like mostpost
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Take a look at the data from Pfizer's clinical vaccine trial submitted to the FDA.

Imo, it literally could have been used to predict the results in the study from your post:

CH7 Israel National News | Nov 17 2021
FDA report finds all-cause mortality higher among vaccinated:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/317091



PDF at the FDA.gov site:
https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download

According to CH7 Israel National News, data submitted to the FDA from Pfizer's own clinical vaccine trial shows the following:

• 22,000 cohorts were given two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

• 22,000 cohorts were given a placebo.

There were 3 COVID deaths among the study cohorts.

• 1 in the vaccinated group.

• 2 in the placebo group.

So twice as many COVID deaths among the placebo group.

Imo, based on that, the FDA committee voted to approve the Pfizer vaccine.

But that only gives you part of the big picture.

Buried on page 23 on the FDA's report of Pfizer's clinical vaccine trial data (link here) you can find the following:



• 21 all causes deaths among the vaccinated group.

• 17 all causes deaths among the placebo group.

So 23.5% higher all causes deaths among the vaccinated group. And the FDA claims the excess deaths in the vaccine group aren't related to vaccination.

I'm not buying that last part for a second.

The original table of all causes deaths submitted to the FDA by Pfizer (see the clickable thumbnail below) which I took a screenshot of but can no longer seem to find on the PDF at the FDA.gov site shows the following breakout of cardiac deaths:

• 4 cardiac arrests in the vaccinated group.
• 1 cardiac failure congestive in the vaccinated group.
• 1 cardio-respiratory arrest in the vaccinated group.
• 1 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in the vaccinated group.

• 1 cardiac arrest in the placebo group.
• 0 cardiac failure congestive in the placebo group.
• 1 cardio-respiratory arrest in the placebo group.
• 0 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in the placebo group.

So 7 cardiac deaths in the vaccinated group and 2 cardiac deaths in the placebo group.

Or 3.5 times the number of cardiac deaths in the vaccinated group vs. the placebo group.



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Of these, ADRs of CVT were reported as 756 (0.07%) out of 1,154,023 cases for the mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines (620 (0.05%) for BNT162b2 and 136 (0.01%) for mRNA-1273) and 757 (0.13%) out of 577,124 cases for the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine.

The numbers above are from your link. For the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, which are the vaccines in use in the United States, the incidence of CVT is under one tenth of one percent. An unvaccinated person is three times more likely to contract Covid and Four times more likely to die from it than a vaccinated person.
Clearly the reward greatly outweighs the risk.

CVT among hospitalized patients has a 2% mortality rate. But the vast, overwhelming majority of persons with CVT never need to be hospitalized. They are treated and cured long before.

Finally, this is what the authors of the study you referred to said about their study.
Our study has limitations. First, if the national drug-monitoring center of a country does not report ADRs, these cases will not be present in VigiBase. However, VigiBase includes rare ADRs and generalized ADR information from more than 130 countries. Second, VigiBase does not provide any validation of laboratory findings, radiologic information, or accuracy of diagnosis. Information on whether CVT occurred after the first or the second vaccine dose was also not included. Third, vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia received major public attention after April 2021 [13], and this may have affected the increased reports of CVT cases after COVID-19 vaccination. Lastly, as mentioned above, it is difficult to directly compare outcome parameters, including death, between the different types of COVID-19 vaccines in VigiBase.
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