takeout & breakage

[Half Smoke]

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looking at the linked chart from HANA it looks like NYRA tracks and Keeneland have the best deal on takeout. Woodbine has a better deal on WPS but bumps up the exacta take to 20.5%. I didn't really look at the extremes because I don't play them

the NYRA tracks and Woodbine give the best deal on breakage

Santa Anita has a a nice deal on WPS at 15.43% but bumps up the exacta take to 22.68% more than 4% higher than NYRA tracks

Churchill - not a great deal at all - 17.50% on WPS and 22% on exactas - 3.5% higher than NYRA tracks


comparing a NYRA track to Laurel:


NYRA - 16% WPS________Laurel - 18%

NYRA - 18.50% exacta___Laurel - 21%

Gulfstream- 17% - WPS - 20% exactas


NYRA has a better deal on breakage too


considering 2 players with equal abilities - one who focuses on NYRA tracks and the other who focuses on Gulfstream, Churchill and Laurel -

over time I would surmise that the better deal on NYRA tracks can make a quite significant difference

I very well may have missed something


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http://www.horseplayersassociation.o...7Sortable.html


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[sharkey11]

SA HOL GG BM DMR all used to have lowest @ 15.25 i think and if the same players are getting rebates then it would even out im thinking but your right the lower the better for all

[JustRalph]

Don’t forget that Maryland has some in state taxes on exotics too. They are above and beyond the usual stuff.

[JustRalph]

Looked up this old thread.

Might be worth a look

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=45655

[tbwinner]

What rebate you get also affects where you play, or should...

For example I have an account with Premier turf club who does or used to advertise here. They don't have contracts with all the tracks but some they offer a good deal.
For example Parx has pretty high takeouts. 20% the exacta and 30% on Tris. However the PTC rebate is 7% on exacta and 10% on Tris. So it makes it competitive with other tracks that have a 1% rebate or one that I can only bet with Twinspires or whatever which rewards is miniscule, other than the free PPs.

When I have a day where I want to play a few tracks, I will make a $2 bet on TS to get the free PPs and then use PTC for my main wagering.

[AskinHaskin]

Originally Posted by Half Smoke

I very well may have missed something



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Probably that HANA effectively died years ago, and that the list is quite outdated by now.


They could've made it if only they'd given touts on that low-takeout Hialeah disaster.

[BarchCapper]

Originally Posted by AskinHaskin

Probably that HANA effectively died years ago, and that the list is quite outdated by now.

Twitter user @Epo13 (a Canadian resident) campaigns against the extra takeout HPIbet extracts over and above the takeout of US tracks.

He periodically posts an updated list (sourced from HPIbet) which shows how badly the Canadian bettors are taking it in the shorts on many pools (the red numbers are what Canadian bettors are dealing with), and while we're feeling sorry for them, we can use this great compiled chart to know where we're doing OK and where we get hurt.

This one is as of the end of May. It's not perfect (the newer pick 6 provisions shown for Aqueduct are not carried over to Belmont - which was running - and Saratoga - which was not yet running)