The Erosion of "HIGHLY EFFECTIVE"

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by davew

Your sources are lying to you mostpost. It is going to be cold this winter near Chicago, I hope you don't die from catastrophic climate disruption.

It is pretty weird that as far precipitation only the southwest USA is suffering from "climate change", last I checked they have always had drought periods.
Precipitation in the rest of the USA hasn't varied in ages. Where I am at they have let mother nature water the crops since Lewis & Clark lived here.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Nationwide 0.95% of All Covid 19 deaths are among fully vaccinated people.99.05% are among non vaccinated or those who have had just one shot.

I know which group I want to belong to.

I'm going to refrain from insulting you even though I've explained this to you already.

If you start from the beginning of the pandemic that's a HORRIBLE use of statistics.

EVERY death last year had to be among the unvaccinated because there was no vaccine. As the months passed this year, the overwhelming number of people were still unvaccinated. So the overwhelming majority of deaths again had to be among unvaccinated.

It is only in the last few months we got to 50% or higher of the population being vaccinated.

We know the vaccine has some benefit initially, but it slowly wanes over 6 months. That means guys like me that got vaccinated in March/April are just now potentially getting exposed while having less efficacy than over the last few months.

So we should just now start seeing an uptick in breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths among the vaccinated. As that occurs, we'll find out the true benefit. But 99% or 95% are both a joke. Even Pfizer was saying something like 40%-50% effective against infection and 70% against hospitalization and death. In Israel they said it was lower. That's why they started giving boosters to almost everyone close to 2 months ago.

[davew]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Nationwide 0.95% of All Covid 19 deaths are among fully vaccinated people.99.05% are among non vaccinated or those who have had just one shot.

I know which group I want to belong to.

do you have a link to this data, or just something you heard on FAKE NEWS ???


anyway, you better stay at home so that you did not meet anyone that can give it too you

[davew]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Nationwide 0.95% of All Covid 19 deaths are among fully vaccinated people.99.05% are among non vaccinated or those who have had just one shot.

I know which group I want to belong to.

by not showing any source for your data, are you admitting to spreading lies and disinformation?

[Jeff P]

Mass vaccination may permanently attenuate population-wide immunity to SARS-2:
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/mas...ay-permanently

Original Antigenic Sin and the Public Health England vaccine surveillance data.

eugyppius
Oct 21

Alex Berenson notices a small admission tucked away on page 23 of the latest Public Health England vaccine surveillance report. According to “recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data, … N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination.”

This is evidence that our vaccines may permanently compromise immunity to SARS-2, via Original Antigenic Sin — the phenomenon, long observed in the antibody response to influenza infections, that initial exposure to a pathogen (or a spike protein) shapes all subsequent immune responses to mutated, recombined or reassorted instances of that pathogen. Our Corona vaccines elicit antibodies against the spike protein alone, while natural infection provokes antibodies against other virus proteins as well, including the nucleocapsid or N protein. The broad spectrum of natural immune response is why recovered individuals enjoy much greater and longer-lasting protection, than people who have been merely vaccinated.

The vaccinators have always insisted that there’s nothing to see here. You can get the spike-specific protection of vaccination, they say, and pick up broader-based protection from low-risk natural infection later on. The problem, though, is that the vaccines appear to influence subsequent immune response, focusing antibodies on legacy spike and making it much easier for SARS-2 to escape immune resistance. Potentially for good, and in billions of people.

The PHE reports have been tracking antibodies against the N protein in blood donors for a while now, as a means of assessing the prevalence of natural infection in the population. Here’s what that looks like: https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch..._1630x959.jpeg

Notice how flat the prevalence of anti-N antibodies remains over time, despite pervasive SARS-2 infections across the UK. And notice how anti-N antibody levels remain especially low in the most heavily vaccinated age brackets. For comparison, anti-S antibodies in these same donors – which are elicited both by vaccines and by infection – have plateaued at 96%. If our vaccines were pre-programming the immune response to focus only on the spike protein, this is what that would look like. Thus the report authors are compelled to admit that prior vaccination inhibits anti-N antibodies.

In the very same PHE report, we find an updated version of what is becoming the world’s most disturbing graph. Infections in the vaccinated continue to outpace infections in the unvaccinated by ever greater amounts, and it’s just no longer credible to claim that this is a statistical error: https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch...1616x1023.jpeg

The universal vaccination campaign has coincided with a marked increase in the volatility of Corona and vast changes to regional and temporal patterns of infection. For the first time, SARS-2 has departed from the seasonality observed by other human coronaviruses. Official discourse has laid all of this at the feet of the Delta variant, but it is very doubtful even the scientists and bureaucrats responsible for this line really believe it. Mass vaccination has drastically altered the environment in which SARS-2 circulates. This was always expected to change the behaviour of the virus – just not in this precise way. In return for only limited protection against severe outcomes, the vaccines appear to encourage the spread of SARS-2, in multiple different ways...

-jp

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[Jeff P]

Part 1 -

A 'leaky' vaccine developed in the 1970's to stop Marek's disease in chickens resulted in mutations that eventually had the ability to evade vaccine induced immunity and kill every infected bird within 10 days.

PBS.org | Jul 27, 2015 3:01 PM EDT
This chicken vaccine makes its virus more dangerous:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science...irus-dangerous

“With the hottest strains, every unvaccinated bird dies within 10 days. There is no human virus that is that hot. Ebola, for example, doesn’t kill everything in 10 days.”

In fact, rather than stop fowl from spreading the virus, the vaccine allows the disease to spread faster and longer than it normally would, a new study finds. The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent. (Note: it only harms fowl). The study was published on Monday in the journal PLOS Biology.

This is the first time that this virus-boosting phenomenon, known as the imperfect vaccine hypothesis, has been observed experimentally.

The reason this is a problem for Marek’s disease is because the vaccine is “leaky.” A leaky vaccine is one that keeps a microbe from doing serious harm to its host, but doesn’t stop the disease from replicating and spreading to another individual. On the other hand, a “perfect” vaccine is one that sets up lifelong immunity that never wanes and blocks both infection and transmission.

It’s important to note childhood vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, rubella and smallpox aren’t leaky; they are considered “perfect” vaccines. As such, they are in no way in danger of falling prey to this phenomenon.

But the results do raise the questions for some human vaccines that are leaky – such as malaria, and other agricultural vaccines, such as the one being used against avian influenza, or bird flu.

Marek’s disease has plagued the chicken industry, it causes $2 billion in losses annually for fowl farmers across the globe. The virus attacks the brain, spawns tumors in the birds and comes in different varieties or “strains”, which are classified as “hot” or “cold” based on their brutality.

Andrew Read, who co-led the study, had heard about the severe effects of the hottest Marek’s strains before his lab started studying the disease about a decade ago, but even he was surprised when he finally saw the virus in action.

Direct link from the above article to a page on the NIH.gov site:

NIH.gov | 2005 Feb 4
Use of Marek's disease vaccines: could they be driving the virus to increasing virulence?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15757475/

Abstract

Marek's disease (MD) is an economically important neoplastic disease of poultry. MD almost devastated the poultry industry in the 1960s but the disease was brought under control after Marek's disease herpesvirus (MDV) was identified and vaccines were developed. This is the first effective use of an antiviral vaccination to prevent a naturally occurring cancer in any species. MDV infection has many effects. Initially causing a cytolytic infection in B-lymphocytes, MDV infects activated T-lymphocytes where it becomes latent. In susceptible chicken genotypes MDV transforms CD4+ lymphocytes, causing visceral lymphomas and/or neural lesions and paralysis. Fully productive infection and shedding of infectious virus only occurs in the feather-follicle epithelium. Vaccination of newly-hatched chicks with live vaccines has been widely used to successfully control MD since the early 1970s. However, vaccinated chickens still become infected and shed MDV. Vaccine breaks have occurred with regularity and there is evidence that the use of MD vaccines could be driving MDV to greater virulence. MD continues to be a threat and a number of strategies have been adopted such as the use of more potent vaccines and vaccination of the embryonic stage to provide earlier protection. Recombinant MD vaccines are useful vectors and are being exploited to carry both viral and host genes to enhance protective immune responses. The future aim must be to develop a sustainable vaccine strategy that does not drive MDV to increased virulence.

Part 2 -

Over the past several weeks I've made a number of posts pointing out recent data suggesting the mRNA Covid vaccines are 'leaky' and are likely driving emergence of new strains with the ability to, at least partially, evade vaccine induced immunity.

Yesterday (Oct 25, 2021) Nature ran an article about a heavily mutated strain called A.30.

Nature | Published: 25 October 2021
The spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 variant A.30 is heavily mutated and evades vaccine-induced antibodies with high efficiency:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-021-00779-5

The COVID-19 pandemic, caused by SARS-CoV-2, continues to rage in many countries, straining health systems and economies. Vaccines protect against severe disease and death and are considered central to ending the pandemic. COVID-19 vaccines (and SARS-CoV-2 infection) elicit antibodies that are directed against the viral spike (S) protein and neutralize the virus. However, the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants with S protein mutations that confer resistance to neutralization might compromise vaccine efficacy [1]. Furthermore, emerging viral variants with enhanced transmissibility, likely due to altered virus-host cell interactions, might rapidly spread globally. Therefore, it is important to investigate whether emerging SARS-CoV-2 variants exhibit altered host cell interactions and resistance against antibody-mediated neutralization.

In summary, A.30 exhibits a cell line preference not observed for other viral variants and efficiently evades neutralization by antibodies elicited by ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 or BNT162b2 vaccination.

Government policy makers had better know what they are doing.

Otherwise, large numbers of people could potentially end up like chickens.




-jp

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[davew]

Government policy makers had better know what they are doing.

Otherwise, large numbers of people could potentially end up like chickens.






Isn't that part of their plan for catastrophic climate disruption? Kill half the world population ....