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Old 07-10-2021, 08:34 PM   #901
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Me too! The Brad Cox's, Michael McCarthy's. Guys like Dan Blacker in So. Cal., etc..
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Old 07-10-2021, 10:20 PM   #902
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Me too! The Brad Cox's, Michael McCarthy's. Guys like Dan Blacker in So. Cal., etc..
Dan Blacker, really? He's like 14% lifetime and this year. I mean I know people like to toss names out there but a 14% guy?
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Old 07-10-2021, 10:31 PM   #903
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I agree....I am rooting now for the Brad Cox's, Joe Sharp's of the world...the young guns who are clean in this sport!
Better find some other young guns to root for as both Cox and Sharp have been suspended for positive's. Sharp had 13 positives in 2019 alone.

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Old 07-10-2021, 10:35 PM   #904
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Better find some other young guns to root for as both Cox and Sharp have been suspended for positive's. Sharp had 13 positives in 2019 alone.

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That would be hard to believe, there certainly has been no talk of banning them to protect the game.

Cox horses do a lot stranger shit than I have ever seen Baffert horses do, and he regularly moves up horses from good barns and horses with poor form.
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:51 AM   #905
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Dan Blacker, really? He's like 14% lifetime and this year. I mean I know people like to toss names out there but a 14% guy?
He seems like a pretty decent guy CJ!! I am always pulling for the good guy!
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Old 07-11-2021, 01:05 AM   #906
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Pico units, ya that moved this horse up to the winners circle. Just saying there MUST be a better case for cheating. Anabolic Steroids, High O2 levels, masking elements, pain killers and MANY other ways to gain an edge. How long has the Cheatin police been watching Baffert and you come to the table with PICO units for topical steroid?
The Horse's performance in the Preakness makes this a distinct possibility.

Shortened up a little over a Football field and couldn't bust a Grape the last 1/8.
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Old 07-11-2021, 11:46 AM   #907
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Better find some other young guns to root for as both Cox and Sharp have been suspended for positive's. Sharp had 13 positives in 2019 alone.

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Yes, I would say that both Cox and Sharp are very suspicious.
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He seems like a pretty decent guy CJ!! I am always pulling for the good guy!
14% is a good win percentage. Unfortunately, almost all of the trainers that are over 16% lifetime have a lot of drug posititives and the few that don't get the best horses to train.
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If your competitors are doping, you have to dope. Always remember that.
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:13 PM   #910
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If your competitors are doping, you have to dope. Always remember that.
I would say you have to or accept a competitive disadvantage. I would also say I do believe a lot of this is taking legal drugs and trying to come up with ways to max out their affect. The true move up doping, not sure how prevalent that is, its out there but I dont think that is what a lot of these guys are doing.

I do think the whole concept of how could you do that to the horses, dont they care about their horses...they do, just not as much as they care about their livelihoods and money. Pro athletes were shooting that into themselves, why would many care about injecting, in many ways, livestock?
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Baffert granted stay, will be able to race at NYRA tracks

A federal District Court judge sitting in New York ruled on Wednesday that the New York Racing Association’s ban of the trainer Bob Baffert should be stayed, stating that the trainer’s rights to due process had been violated.

Judge Carol Bagley Amon of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York issued the ruling on Wednesday afternoon, one day prior to the opening of NYRA’s prestigious Saratoga Race Course meet in upstate New York. The ruling will allow Baffert to start horses at the meet, barring any official suspensions he is issued in any jurisdiction.

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Baffert granted stay, will be able to race at NYRA tracks

A federal District Court judge sitting in New York ruled on Wednesday that the New York Racing Association’s ban of the trainer Bob Baffert should be stayed, stating that the trainer’s rights to due process had been violated.

Judge Carol Bagley Amon of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York issued the ruling on Wednesday afternoon, one day prior to the opening of NYRA’s prestigious Saratoga Race Course meet in upstate New York. The ruling will allow Baffert to start horses at the meet, barring any official suspensions he is issued in any jurisdiction.

https://www.drf.com/news/baffert-gra...-race-new-york
This thread is about to get interesting.
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I expected it really. Onus is on KHRC now. NYRA tried, not sure what else they could do.
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I expected it really. Onus is on KHRC now. NYRA tried, not sure what else they could do.
dilanesp pretty much nailed exactly what the judge said.

I wonder who he's going to bring and how the crowd is going to react if he actually shows up. My guess is that if he sends a few horses he will stay in CA.
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