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02-16-2016, 09:14 PM
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Is Tapit one of the best Sires Ever?
He continues to produce on every surface and at every distance. Where do you think he stacks up all time?
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02-17-2016, 12:47 AM
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If he's not top 10 all time already, he's getting close.
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02-17-2016, 08:14 AM
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Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
If he's not top 10 all time already, he's getting close.
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It depends on how his sons do as studs, top sires are also ranked not just on the earnings but if they have good sons at stud like AP Indy and Storm Cat, time will tell.
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04-20-2016, 02:47 AM
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i was just looking at tapits lifetime pps and it seems he got 'ruined' in the ky derby and was never the same and got retired. short career but certainly didnt hurt his stud talents.
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04-20-2016, 07:36 AM
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Location: Boston+Ocala
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the best were MR. PROSPECTOR and VALID APPEAL (for broodmares). but there are plenty of others, i went for those guys because i have personally had offspring from them.
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04-20-2016, 08:13 AM
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Scum Bum!
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Lexington, KY
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To piggyback on lambo, broodmare sire stats are just as significant as their record as a stallion.
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04-20-2016, 10:39 AM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
i was just looking at tapits lifetime pps and it seems he got 'ruined' in the ky derby and was never the same and got retired. short career but certainly didnt hurt his stud talents.
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I don't remember specifics, but I know I had his Wood win rated very poorly and didn't consider him any kind of Derby contender that year.
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04-20-2016, 10:46 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Austin, Tx
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Tapit certainly is one of the great sires. Posted his form going into through the '04 Derby.
In my lifetime, I think Northern Dancer was the all-time best.
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04-20-2016, 12:44 PM
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Horse Racing Connossieur
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Michigan
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Seattle Slew was a great dirt sire in the 80's, as well as his son AP Indy in the next generation.
I see Tapit comes from that line.
Northern Dancer was the top turf sire for many years in the 80's also.
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04-20-2016, 12:48 PM
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Alydar a all time great sire.Top 3
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04-20-2016, 04:50 PM
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He's got A.P. Indy on his side who is one of my favorites and when he was racing.
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04-20-2016, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kash$
Alydar a all time great sire.Top 3
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Not hardly. In fairness he didn't have the opportunity however.
In the past 50 years, Northern Dancer is the undisputed #1 sire. Mr. P and Danzig would probably rank 2nd and 3rd, then there's Storm Cat, Deputy Minister, A.P. Indy, etc. Giant's Causeway doesn't really get the respect he deserves.
Tapit will undoubtedly join them.
The Tapits have their flaws though. They're temperamental and it can get in the way of their talent. They don't seem to have great longevity either.
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04-20-2016, 06:58 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by Kash$
Alydar a all time great sire.Top 3
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If it wasn't for the "super powers" of Affirmed, Alydar would get more credit.....
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04-20-2016, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
If it wasn't for the "super powers" of Affirmed, Alydar would get more credit.....
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Only few know that story.....please shhhhh
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04-20-2016, 07:30 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Bronx, NY
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Originally Posted by Valento
Tapit certainly is one of the great sires. Posted his form going into through the '04 Derby.
In my lifetime, I think Northern Dancer was the all-time best.
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+1
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