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Old 11-03-2016, 02:43 PM   #3766
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Great to hear you are Okay with corruption in politics...living in Chicago will have that effect...most people want to drain the swamp, they've had more than enough. You are a country of laws and that id good but these laws MUST be enforced especially when they involve DoJ, FBI, State Department IRS etal. I really have a hard time seeing how you are willing to sweep all this under the carpet? Is their no honor left, what a sad state of affairs.
It is not just about which figure head wins the presidency... The reality is that american politics has been degenerating for years now...the two party system is corrupt on both sides and essentially functions as a one party system with the illusion of democratic choice as the BIG LIE...look at the former Soviet Union...see how their idealism was a sham cover for establishing a kleptocracy governed by the worst possible actors, a kakocracy...the type of political method has been perfected, with population being deceived by ideologies of equality, brotherhood of man, socialism, class hatred, worker's rule and paradise, and democratic centralism...but all these ideals are just stalking horses for thugs and theives to coop agencies of authority, gain power and control....then proceed with the looting of the nation while maintaining a fear and violence based political structure...this is the goal....the Bush, Obama, Clinton, and now Trump team are just the softer public face of a kleptocratic machine advancing forwardly into an increasingly corrupt future....

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Old 11-03-2016, 02:45 PM   #3767
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but...and...uh...who would you rather have as first lady Bill or Melania.
By the way she just gave a great speech.
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:51 PM   #3768
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She talked????
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Old 11-03-2016, 03:06 PM   #3769
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She talked????
Yeah, she was surprised too

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...urprise-230385
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Old 11-03-2016, 03:34 PM   #3770
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Well, the two most important things that I'm interested in Trump will have control over.

1. Supreme Court appointments
2. Immigration policy

The rest I'll take my chances on.....
If these two areas are indeed your primary concerns...then you are most fortunate.
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Old 11-03-2016, 03:36 PM   #3771
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Geez.. I was talking about the Gov. individual depts. to enforce laws...not Trump or any other POTUS. Enforce laws arrest criminal's do your god damned jobs.
The problem, of course, is that these "individual Gov. depts." are corrupt THEMSELVES...and can't be trusted to properly enforce their own laws.
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Old 11-03-2016, 03:45 PM   #3772
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The problem, of course, is that these "individual Gov. depts." are corrupt THEMSELVES...and can't be trusted to properly enforce their own laws.
Okay then "Drain the swamp"
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Old 11-03-2016, 03:51 PM   #3773
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The problem, of course, is that these "individual Gov. depts." are corrupt THEMSELVES...and can't be trusted to properly enforce their own laws.
Another big problem is administrative agencies jealously guarding their own turf. Career bureaucrats often don't much care who is at the top, they only care about keeping (and increasing) their budget and their authority, and will lie and cheat to keep the status quo.
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Old 11-03-2016, 04:06 PM   #3774
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If these two areas are indeed your primary concerns...then you are most fortunate.
They are among the primary concerns of all Americans who believe in the preservation of the Constitution and the protection of our borders and culture.
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Old 11-03-2016, 04:31 PM   #3775
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They are among the primary concerns of all Americans who believe in the preservation of the Constitution and the protection of our borders and culture.
What is American culture and why does it need protecting?
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Old 11-03-2016, 05:42 PM   #3776
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The problem, of course, is that these "individual Gov. depts." are corrupt THEMSELVES...and can't be trusted to properly enforce their own laws.
Except they'll enforce them if they find you filching a couple of hundred bucks.
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:37 PM   #3777
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What is American culture and why does it need protecting?

You crack me up when you ask these broad open questions
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:43 PM   #3778
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What is American culture ?

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Old 11-03-2016, 08:03 PM   #3779
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What is American culture and why does it need protecting?
American culture is clinging to guns and religion. It needs protecting because progressives want to turn the whole country into one great big safe space where we can all live happily ever after.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:29 PM   #3780
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If these two areas are indeed your primary concerns...then you are most fortunate.
Those are the two fundamental issues.
All other will depend on how they play out.

Those two will determine if the nation remains sovereign or follows the downhill path of Europe, into the abyss. We are perilously close to the edge now.
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