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01-12-2021, 11:12 AM
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Prince Khalid Abdullah has died
Prince Khalid Abdullah owner of such greats as Frankel, Enable and Dancing Brave has passed away. He had a tremendous impact on racing worldwide and has owned some tremendous horses apart from those mentioned above, including recently Arrogate in the US. I will never forget the great Dancing Brave and saw him many times at the track. His run to win the Arc in what was possibly the highest class race of all time will live long in my memory as will his controversial defeat in the Derby.
He always came across as gentleman in interviews and he will be missed.
RIP and thanks for the memories.
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01-12-2021, 11:50 AM
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I've never been a big fan of the political valence of this sport being so reliant on brutal Middle Eastern dictatorships- and in that regard, I am also not a fan of labeling the brutal, awful, undeserving participants in such dictatorships as "gentlemen", as nothing stops these rich people from giving up their titles and taking their money and western educations and leaving these repressive systems- but purely from a sport perspective, the Prince has to rank among the great owners in the history of thoroughbred racing. His horses won everything.
Bottom line, he was a terrible person but a successful horse owner.
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01-12-2021, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by snappit
Prince Khalid Abdullah owner of such greats as Frankel, Enable and Dancing Brave has passed away. He had a tremendous impact on racing worldwide and has owned some tremendous horses apart from those mentioned above, including recently Arrogate in the US. I will never forget the great Dancing Brave and saw him many times at the track. His run to win the Arc in what was possibly the highest class race of all time will live long in my memory as will his controversial defeat in the Derby.
He always came across as gentleman in interviews and he will be missed.
RIP and thanks for the memories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy1U6zBlmK0
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Well said. RIP
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01-13-2021, 11:32 PM
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The last thing I expected to see in that video of the 1986 Arc was Angel Cordero riding, let alone hitting the board.
Juddmonte has been at the forefront of breeding & racing excellence for a long time now, but to me it's always seemed like an invisible hand behind it all as I honestly can't ever remember seeing the prince or reading about him personally at all. I guess that's not a bad thing if you trust your trainers to do their jobs & take the glory. I have not seen anything mentioned about surviving family members or prospects for the operation down the road, would be a shame if it dispersed.
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01-14-2021, 11:20 AM
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Bred 108 grade and group one winners.
Allan
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01-14-2021, 12:56 PM
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Contributed a lot of support for the game: good guy.
I had the experience of standing in front of him at the 1986 Breeder's Cup telling him that Dancing Brave wouldn't handle the turns and that Manila was the projected winner, pace wise...
Fun when you are right
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01-14-2021, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Contributed a lot of support for the game: good guy.
I had the experience of standing in front of him at the 1986 Breeder's Cup telling him that Dancing Brave wouldn't handle the turns and that Manila was the projected winner, pace wise...
Fun when you are right
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Somehow this doesn't surprise me at all
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01-14-2021, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SG4
The last thing I expected to see in that video of the 1986 Arc was Angel Cordero riding, let alone hitting the board.
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Triptych, great race mare. Won the Champion Stakes a few days later and then ran respectably, splitting the field, in the BC Classic on dirt two weeks later.
Made a bold move on the far turn in the 1988 BC Turf actually clearing Great Communicator and Sunshine Forever (with Indian Skimmer on her hip) but something went amiss mid-stretch and the jock wrapped up on her late, easing the last furlong (still managed to finish 4th). Final career start after 40+ starts. Won the Champion or Irish Champion like 100 times.
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01-14-2021, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Somehow this doesn't surprise me at all
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Wore a shirt that asked "Dancing Brave can you handle these turns?"
Documented in the DRF publication T he Greatest Show on Turf: A history of the Breeder's Cup," by Perry Lefko in Chapter 15, The Greatest Race?
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01-14-2021, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Contributed a lot of support for the game: good guy.
I had the experience of standing in front of him at the 1986 Breeder's Cup telling him that Dancing Brave wouldn't handle the turns and that Manila was the projected winner, pace wise...
Fun when you are right
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Manila in that race was one of the great overlays of all time.
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01-14-2021, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Wore a shirt that asked "Dancing Brave can you handle these turns?"
Documented in the DRF publication The Greatest Show on Turf: A history of the Breeder's Cup," by Perry Lefko in Chapter 15, The Greatest Race?
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The funny thing is your username refers to another Euro horse who came over and burned a boatload of money in a BC race.
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01-14-2021, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Spalding No!
Triptych, great race mare. Won the Champion Stakes a few days later and then ran respectably, splitting the field, in the BC Classic on dirt two weeks later.
Made a bold move on the far turn in the 1988 BC Turf actually clearing Great Communicator and Sunshine Forever (with Indian Skimmer on her hip) but something went amiss mid-stretch and the jock wrapped up on her late, easing the last furlong (still managed to finish 4th). Final career start after 40+ starts. Won the Champion or Irish Champion like 100 times.
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Yeah that was quite a career she had (and I can thank her for expanding the vocabulary of a young handicapper at the time). On other sporting attempts, Juddmonte also sent over the 3yo filly Jolypha to finish 3rd in the BC Classic in '92. Has any other 3 year old filly ever even entered the Classic, let alone in their first dirt attempt?? Fantastic effort, too bad she was pretty much a dud when left in the states afterwards.
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01-14-2021, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
The funny thing is your username refers to another Euro horse who came over and burned a boatload of money in a BC race.
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The sweaty miler who was dripping at the start at Gulfstream, and yes I know, means EARTHQUAKE
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01-15-2021, 12:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SG4
Yeah that was quite a career she had (and I can thank her for expanding the vocabulary of a young handicapper at the time). On other sporting attempts, Juddmonte also sent over the 3yo filly Jolypha to finish 3rd in the BC Classic in '92. Has any other 3 year old filly ever even entered the Classic, let alone in their first dirt attempt?? Fantastic effort, too bad she was pretty much a dud when left in the states afterwards.
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Jolypha was a full sister to Dancing Brave. Maybe they should have run him in the Classic in '86.
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