Trump's policy of forcibly taking migrant children from their parents

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

But get those kids back to their parents.

Why? You don't say the same thing about kids whose US citizen parents get arrested here in the good ol' USA.

They get put into foster care when mommy and daddy get taken away for the meth lab they have in the basement. Or being too whacked out on dope to take care of their kids. Or running prostitution out of the home with kids around.

Are you in favor of getting the kids back with those parents?

No?

Then why are you in favor of getting kids back with parents who no doubt have put their children in harm's way trying to get to the USA (and avoiding trying to find somewhere in Mexico to stay...nah...let's drag the kids hundreds of more miles to the USA...)

You think they had adequate food and water along the way? Clean clothes? A decent place to sleep? Schooling during all the weeks/months it took to get here?

Are those parents fit to take care of children properly? Do they have good judgement skills? Give the children back?

You guys are the jokes around here, hate to tell you this.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Or do you now think children should be kept with parents no matter what?

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Jesus ****ing Christ did you read the goddamn thread?

This was answered about 10 times.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

MSM are not allowed into detention centers for filming.
They only receive footage of what the government allows.

What a sorry-ass country this is becoming.

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by highnote

Jesus ****ing Christ did you read the goddamn thread?

This was answered about 10 times.

Yes it was and you said the same thing 50 times.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by jocko699

Yes it was and you said the same thing 50 times.

LOL

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by highnote

Crossing a border is not equivalent to dealing or using drugs.

You're right. It's worse.

Even the drug user has moments of clarity when not high. Can't say the same for parents who drag their kids across hundreds of miles or more, bypassing Mexico altogether, just so they can get to the USA. I'm sure these kids were well taken care of during that time, with plenty of food, water, shelter, clothing, bedding, etc. etc.

You're absolutely right though. The drug dealer/user would probably make a much better parent than someone who would do that to their kids.

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by highnote

Because it is obviously wrong to separate children from their parents.

Since you and others here think it is OK for children to be separated from the parents maybe you will like to listen to cries of the children:

https://www.propublica.org/article/c...ent=1529351580
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Our we 100% sure that is a tape of kids wailing in detention center... for all we know it's audio of Hillery's supports on elections day.

It's not above the media to lie twist and deceive.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by highnote

I am sure I can cite numerous examples of governments acting legally, but that doesn't legitimatize immoral laws. That just means government has enough power to enforce the laws.

The Nazi's had laws, too. That doesn't mean Nazi laws were legitimate. It just means they had the power to enforce them.

People of high moral character understood this and did what was right. The ends justified the means.

The actions of Oskar Schindler come to mind. He was a member of the Nazi party, but he certainly broke the law by saving thousands of Polish Jews.

Just because the U.S. is acting legally, (if it is), does not mean it is acting morally.

Nazis schmatzis.

You have no clue who or what Nazis were if you dare bring them into these discussions. You sir, are disgusting in the depths you will dive to.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by highnote

I was referring to parents using meth or overdosing on heroin and putting their kids in mortal danger.

Dragging your kids hundreds of miles across desert, exposing them to all sorts of lowlifes looking to take advantage of their situation, inadequate food, water, shelter, schooling....pretty sure there is plenty of mortal danger in most of those things.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by highnote

But I'll take my chances by being on the side of Laura Bush, Billy Graham's son and others.

We don't care about these people (Laura, Billy, etc) like you think we do. At least I don't.

Their opinions hold no weight with me and I suspect most others opposing you in this thread.

So we can check off Nazis, Laura Bush, Billy Graham's son (does he have his own name?) and others.

Got anything else?

[PaceAdvantage]

Now more than ever, liberalism = mental disease.

Off topic is proof positive.

[FantasticDan]

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[highnote]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

You're right. It's worse.

Even the drug user has moments of clarity when not high. Can't say the same for parents who drag their kids across hundreds of miles or more, bypassing Mexico altogether, just so they can get to the USA. I'm sure these kids were well taken care of during that time, with plenty of food, water, shelter, clothing, bedding, etc. etc.

You're absolutely right though. The drug dealer/user would probably make a much better parent than someone who would do that to their kids.

That is just silly. Sacajawea was able to travel from St. Louis to the Pacific Ocean and back with a newborn. You're lucky to have been born a white male in a country with a great infrastructure that could provide you with an education and access to jobs. The same cannot be said of the people trying escape poverty, war, and crime. It sounds to me like they are so desperate to get away from what looks incredible hardship that they are risking their lives at a chance for a better life.

Have you ever had to go to sleep hungry or worry about being killed in a war zone or had to grow up in absolute poverty with no hope of a job or a secure future?

The lack of empathy for the plight of these desperate people is disappointing.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Dragging your kids hundreds of miles across desert, exposing them to all sorts of lowlifes looking to take advantage of their situation, inadequate food, water, shelter, schooling....pretty sure there is plenty of mortal danger in most of those things.

They're ****ed if they stay where they are and now it looks like there are a whole bunch of people who want to **** them over if they come here.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Nazis schmatzis.

You have no clue who or what Nazis were if you dare bring them into these discussions. You sir, are disgusting in the depths you will dive to.

I disagree. Nazi's are the low baseline with which every wrong and immoral act gets compared to. The closer a situation is to what the Nazi's did the worse it is, presumably.

The book "Sophie's Choice" reminds me a lot of what is going on at the border -- separating children from their parents. Blame Trump's border policy for bringing up these memories.