Obama losing the crowd....on immigration?

[JustRalph]

Graph 63% oppose
http://news.investors.com/photopopup...ion=&id=715421

He who waits......

Article

http://news.investors.com/082914-715...oll.htm?p=full

[classhandicapper]

I recently saw an article that suggested that some illegals that had left voluntarily would be aggressively be invited back via advertising (certain conditions). I mean how sick is that?

1. We know you broke the law.

2. You are now gone and no longer a legal, financial, or any other kind of burden to us.

3. But since what you did happen a long time ago or because we may understand why you did it, we'll ENCOURAGE YOU to come back and be a problem again.

4. Of course remember who helped you break the law again and vote for us.

These guys are criminally insane or intrinsically evil.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I recently saw an article that suggested that some illegals that had left voluntarily would be invited back (certain conditions). I mean how sick is that?

Part of a law suit filed by the ACLU.

As part of a legal settlement that will allow some illegal immigrants who deported themselves from Southern California to return to the United States, the federal government has agreed to advertise the settlement on various Mexican and Spanish-language media outlets.

The ACLU filed a class-action lawsuit last year on behalf of eleven illegal immigrants who deported themselves. The settlement reached on Wednesday will only cover "longtime California residents with relatives who are U.S. citizens and... young migrants whose parents brought them into the country illegally" who deported themselves between 2009 and 2013. An ACLU official has indicated that there were nearly 250,000 people who were "deported voluntarily from Southern California between 2009 and 2013" and estimated to the Los Angeles Times that the "number of repatriations could reach into the hundreds or thousands."

[Clocker]

It is apparently the view of the constitutional law professor in chief that the ability to immigrate to this country is a human right. From a Time story about his Labor Day speech at an AFL-CIO festival in Milwaukee:

“Hope is what gives us courage; hope is what gave soldiers courage to storm a beach,” Obama said, harkening back to his 2008 presidential campaign. “Hope is what gives young people the strength to march for women’s rights and workers’ rights and civil rights and voting rights and gay rights and immigration rights.”

It was the first time “immigration rights” had been included in the president’s familiar riff on civil principles, and the first time Obama has used the phrase outside the context of referring to “immigration-rights activists.”

The statement, seemingly delivered off the cuff, is the latest indication of Obama laying the groundwork for unilateral executive action that could defer prosecutions for millions who arrived in the United States illegally.

[woodtoo]

L.Ronstad qoute "poor poor pitiful me"

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Graph 63% oppose
http://news.investors.com/photopopup...ion=&id=715421

He who waits......

Article

http://news.investors.com/082914-715...oll.htm?p=full

I wonder if they rephrased the question a little bit to read "Should Congress work with the president on immigration reform?" what the numbers would be.
The fact that 47% say the country is in recession tells you the bias of the poll. If the country was in recession it would be the first recession in history with +3% GDP and it would also be the first recession in history in the midst of a huge bull stock market. We may have a recession in the future(who knows what the bankers are up to this time), but anybody who thinks we are in one know is just plain not paying attention.

[davew]

Interesting that ACLU is suing.

As far as I can tell, the people south of the border do manual labor, fast food, and low level entry positions. The jobs they will displace are the high school drop-outs, drug addicts, and fat/lazy Americans. As an employer, there is advantage of having employees that show up on time and eager to work.

There is no way this will help the 45% unemployed African Americans become employed. It does not matter what union they join (does the American Civil Liberty Union pay black people money for nothing?)

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

The fact that 47% say the country is in recession tells you the bias of the poll. If the country was in recession it would be the first recession in history with +3% GDP and it would also be the first recession in history in the midst of a huge bull stock market. We may have a recession in the future(who knows what the bankers are up to this time), but anybody who thinks we are in one know is just plain not paying attention.

People that don't follow economic and financial news typically answer questions like this based on their personal situation and that of friends and family. They don't know or care about how the country is doing, they care about their own little corner of the world.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by davew

Interesting that ACLU is suing.

As far as I can tell, the people south of the border do manual labor, fast food, and low level entry positions. The jobs they will displace are the high school drop-outs, drug addicts, and fat/lazy Americans. As an employer, there is advantage of having employees that show up on time and eager to work.

There is no way this will help the 45% unemployed African Americans become employed. It does not matter what union they join (does the American Civil Liberty Union pay black people money for nothing?)

Are you going to buy a burger from someone who doesn't speak English? I have my doubts on that one.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

I wonder if they rephrased the question a little bit to read "Should Congress work with the president on immigration reform?" what the numbers would be.
The fact that 47% say the country is in recession tells you the bias of the poll. If the country was in recession it would be the first recession in history with +3% GDP and it would also be the first recession in history in the midst of a huge bull stock market. We may have a recession in the future(who knows what the bankers are up to this time), but anybody who thinks we are in one know is just plain not paying attention.

Keep selling that crap. An artificially propped up market making Wall Street rich and hurting the middle and lower class should be a jail-able offense. That's a new word I just made up.

GDP numbers are questionable and fall into what constantly seems to be a "readjusted" numbers. Millions and millions of people out of the workforce. You can hide a recession with numbers and bullshit. People can see through it.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Are you going to buy a burger from someone who doesn't speak English? I have my doubts on that one.

Robert, all due respect, you are out of touch. Every restaurant in America is full of Spanish speakers, and poor blacks.

You would have to look hard to find a burger that wasn't provided by a Spanish speaker somewhere along the line.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Keep selling that crap. An artificially propped up market making Wall Street rich and hurting the middle and lower class should be a jail-able offense. That's a new word I just made up.

GDP numbers are questionable and fall into what constantly seems to be a "readjusted" numbers. Millions and millions of people out of the workforce. You can hide a recession with numbers and bullshit. People can see through it.

There is no doubt that the rich has done very well under Obama. Whether he intended to or not, he has proved once and for all that "trickle down economics" don't work. But that won't stop the GOP from pushing that theory going forward.

[LottaKash]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

There is no doubt that the rich has done very well under Obama. Whether he intended to or not, he has proved once and for all that "trickle down economics" don't work. But that won't stop the GOP from pushing that theory going forward.

But "trickle up poverty", surely does....The "chairman", oh excuse me, the president, is right on schedule with all of that... And, it is quite obvious to some..

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Whether he intended to or not, he has proved once and for all that "trickle down economics" don't work. But that won't stop the GOP from pushing that theory going forward.

There is no such thing as a theory of "trickle down economics". It is a political term used to disparage policies of the other side.

Inequality of income has increased more under Obama than under Bush or any other recent president. The rich are getting richer because the economic and social policies of this president, combined with the fiscal policies of the Federal Reserve, have made it much more profitable to invest in the stock market than to invest in new businesses that create jobs.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Are you going to buy a burger from someone who doesn't speak English? I have my doubts on that one.

I already do, the fast food joints where I am at are populated by foreigners.