Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Off Topic > Off Topic - General


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 08-27-2014, 06:34 PM   #1
Jay Trotter
CHEESEY
 
Jay Trotter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 7,369
UZI ACCIDENT

Child firing Uzi at Ariz. shooting range accidentally kills instructor, police say...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/ari...ent/index.html
__________________
"Have another donut you fat pig!"

Jim Schoenfeld
Jay Trotter is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 07:00 PM   #2
fast4522
Registered User
 
fast4522's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 14,478
Safety at shooting ranges is paramount, the range officer (RO) is also the safety officer. Instructor may be also the RO but often an instructor is under the RO who has complete control who can command all guns down hands off. Why any RO would permit a nine year old to handle a Uzi is beyond me. There should be nothing forward of the firing line but targets.
fast4522 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 07:02 PM   #3
Clocker
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17,095
It is not an accident, it is criminal negligence at every level by pretty much everyone involved. A nine-year old does not have the physical or mental maturity to fire that weapon, or the rational maturity to make the decision and bear the responsibility of her actions.

Her parents, the instructor, and the owners of the range all bear the guilt. And now the instructor is dead and the little girl's life is potentially ruined.
__________________
A man's got to know his limitations. -- Dirty Harry
Clocker is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 07:09 PM   #4
Marshall Bennett
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston , Tx.
Posts: 9,588
Why does a nine year old need training with an automatic weapon?
Marshall Bennett is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 07:17 PM   #5
horses4courses
Registered User
 
horses4courses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 14,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Why does a nine year old need training with an automatic weapon?
Why does anyone outside of the military and police need such training?
__________________
Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
pinning their hopes on a man who has every
chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
horses4courses is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 07:30 PM   #6
Clocker
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17,095
Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Why does anyone outside of the military and police need such training?
Because it is fun?

Why does anyone other than a member of the military need training on sky diving?
__________________
A man's got to know his limitations. -- Dirty Harry
Clocker is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 07:35 PM   #7
Tape Reader
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Why does a nine year old need training with an automatic weapon?
I agree. They see it on TV all the time.

Sue Hollywood, save the world.

Last edited by Tape Reader; 08-27-2014 at 07:38 PM.
Tape Reader is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 07:39 PM   #8
reckless
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: near Philadelphia
Posts: 4,560
Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Why does anyone outside of the military and police need such training?
Because we need to be able to defend ourselves from those that seek to harm us -- such as those totalitarians running our government.
reckless is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 07:55 PM   #9
Ocala Mike
Registered User
 
Ocala Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 5,005
UZI ACCIDENT

Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless

Because we need to be able to defend ourselves from those that seek to harm us -- such as those totalitarians running our government.
I laughed. You forgot the smilie, right? You're going to stand up to the US Military with 9-yo girls packin' heat?
Ocala Mike is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 08:00 PM   #10
johnhannibalsmith
Registered User
 
johnhannibalsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,402
Up to this point, amazingly, pretty much everyone from all stripes is on board that nine-year-olds of either gender probably shouldn't be encouraged to fire hardcore weaponry. No reason to stray into clicheville now.
__________________
"You make me feel like I am fun again."

-Robert James Smith, 1989
johnhannibalsmith is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 08:09 PM   #11
ArlJim78
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 8,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Why does anyone outside of the military and police need such training?
didn't you watch any of the footage from Ferguson? unarmed white businesses were ransacked by the mob while the police just stood by. all of that military equipment was not used against the lawbreakers, only to intimidate the public and protesters and even press. when the shit hits the fan rest assured the police are not there to protect you.
ArlJim78 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 09:33 PM   #12
Rookies
Canadian since 51
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,458
'Bullets and Burgers'.

You can't make this shite up.
Rookies is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 10:14 PM   #13
reckless
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: near Philadelphia
Posts: 4,560
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ocala Mike
I laughed. You forgot the smilie, right? You're going to stand up to the US Military with 9-yo girls packin' heat?
Some issues today are too serious to smile about, Mike, and it isn't funny knowing that our very own government think citizens are more a threat than ISIS and numerous other villains around the world.

H4C did post asking why would anyone .... need to learn how to handle a firearm if you aren't in the military or police. There wasn't any reference to 9-year-olds even though this thread was about a 9-year-old.

Last edited by reckless; 08-27-2014 at 10:21 PM.
reckless is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 11:22 PM   #14
Clocker
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17,095
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
No reason to stray into clicheville now.
Too late.

"Why does anybody need...."

This will be the mantra of the main stream media on the news shows tomorrow.
__________________
A man's got to know his limitations. -- Dirty Harry
Clocker is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 08-27-2014, 11:36 PM   #15
davew
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,639
It sounds like this is a day trip from Las Vegas to a shooting range that specializes in lessons on semiautomatics and machine guns.

Girl from NJ won't forget that trip.


OSHA will probably crucify the company for safety violations (in this case probably justified).
davew is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply





Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
» Current Polls
Wh deserves to be the favorite? (last 4 figures)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2023 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.