Charlestown Race 8 - No willpay data for Pick 6

[BCOURTNEY]

No will pay data for the Pick 6 prior to the start of the race?

[Fox]

Strange

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by BCOURTNEY

No will pay data for the Pick 6 prior to the start of the race?

They never show it.

[cj]

Is it a jackpot bet? If so I think they've done away with that since Gulfstream totally screwed it up a few years ago after a scratch meant there wasn't a lone winner.

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by cj

Is it a jackpot bet? If so I think they've done away with that since Gulfstream totally screwed it up a few years ago after a scratch meant there wasn't a lone winner.

I think that occurred at Louisiana Downs, not GP. I knew the two guys who thought they had the whole pool that day.

[cj]

Originally Posted by TiffaniO

I think that occurred at Louisiana Downs, not GP. I knew the two guys who thought they had the whole pool that day.

So is CT a jackpot bet?

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by cj

So is CT a jackpot bet?

Yes

[BCOURTNEY]

Originally Posted by TiffaniO

Yes

This is what I thought as well which is why not having the willpay/jackpot amounts prior to the race being let off is odd - pool integrity becomes questionable.

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by BCOURTNEY

This is what I thought as well which is why not having the willpay/jackpot amounts prior to the race being let off is odd - pool integrity becomes questionable.

Charles town never posts it... never ever ever... call the mutual department... they haven’t a clue and I guarantee you that you’ll get a smart ass answer from them lol

Most tracks will not post it anymore if there is a scratch on the final race, even AEs. I know this to be a fact at GP and LRL and Pimlico.

Several years ago, at LaD, in their jackpot pick 5, two guys had a horse of Al Stall’s alive for the whole pool, at least that is what the will pays indicated. A horse that was scratched that morning had a ticket alive to it. Stall’s horse took late money and the scratch moved to Stall’s horse making it 2 tickets, thus no jackpot.

That is why most tracks won’t indicate it now if there are any scratches.

Here is a link to the story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.19251ca812b7

[BCOURTNEY]

Originally Posted by TiffaniO

Charles town never posts it... never ever ever... call the mutual department... they haven’t a clue and I guarantee you that you’ll get a smart ass answer from them lol

Most tracks will not post it anymore if there is a scratch on the final race, even AEs. I know this to be a fact at GP and LRL and Pimlico.

Several years ago, at LaD, in their jackpot pick 5, two guys had a horse of Al Stall’s alive for the whole pool, at least that is what the will pays indicated. A horse that was scratched that morning had a ticket alive to it. Stall’s horse took late money and the scratch moved to Stall’s horse making it 2 tickets, thus no jackpot.

That is why most tracks won’t indicate it now if there are any scratches.

Here is a link to the story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.19251ca812b7

So rather than address the problem with a rule change or a different approach, they intentionally withhold information and decrease pool transparency on the most exotic wager offered, reducing the pool integrity. It's hard to imagine its legal they can offer a wager for a fixed price with a unpublished and non deterministic outcome, sounds like a game of chance not skill, murky waters there.

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by BCOURTNEY

So rather than address the problem with a rule change or a different approach, they intentionally withhold information and decrease pool transparency on the most exotic wager offered, reducing the pool integrity. It's hard to imagine its legal they can offer a wager for a fixed price with a unpublished and non deterministic outcome, sounds like a game of chance not skill, murky waters there.

All I can say is... call every Racing commission in the country and voice your opinion and concerns.