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Old 03-01-2018, 11:14 AM   #76
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What would be worse publicly, sending them to kill lots or euthanize them?

Anyhow, I actually asked about that idea a while ago in a thread which I couldnt find. I basically asked how a Blackfish-esque documentary would impact horse racing? That movie basically killed an industry.
Kill lots. At least euthanization is considered humane. Obviously neither is ideal.
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Old 03-05-2018, 12:26 PM   #77
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Owners are not paying into any fund like this. Not in Louisiana or Kentucky that Iím aware of and I run in both spots. It would be good if they were
Once again, I do not post often, but I would like to clarify. attached is a statement from Churchill Downs on one of our first time starters. She did not hit the board that day, but she did receive some starter money of 120.00 that day. We had to pay Albarado 70.00 in Jockey fees, KHRC 20.00 for the administration of the race day lasix, and 5.00 to the Aftercare Alliance.

We have not ran in LA because of various reasons. There is a chance that we run later this month, so I cannot say about that jurisdiction. Here in KY it is mandatory to contribute with each start to this fund.
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Let me correct my statement above, I cannot say it is mandatory in KY. I just know we are charged that fee not only at CDX, but also KEE, ELP and KD. We have not run at TPX because we are either in FL or LA for the winter months.
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Once again, I do not post often, but I would like to clarify. attached is a statement from Churchill Downs on one of our first time starters. She did not hit the board that day, but she did receive some starter money of 120.00 that day. We had to pay Albarado 70.00 in Jockey fees, KHRC 20.00 for the administration of the race day lasix, and 5.00 to the Aftercare Alliance.

We have not ran in LA because of various reasons. There is a chance that we run later this month, so I cannot say about that jurisdiction. Here in KY it is mandatory to contribute with each start to this fund.
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I do see it on my KY bill now. Just not on La. which does not do it.

I didn't pull up the horsemans account and look, just looked in my booklet I keep everything in and I missed writing that down.

Good for KY.

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Last weekend of the meet at Delta, and FIFTEEN of their horses were found in Thompson's Kill Lot today.

Delta Downs is a real piece of work.
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Last weekend of the meet at Delta, and FIFTEEN of their horses were found in Thompson's Kill Lot today.

Delta Downs is a real piece of work.
Is there a place where we can uncover the CONNECTIONS of these unfortunate horses? This type of information shouldn't be kept hidden...IMO; it should be shouted from the RAFTERS.
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Is there a place where we can uncover the CONNECTIONS of these unfortunate horses? This type of information shouldn't be kept hidden...IMO; it should be shouted from the RAFTERS.
Thask, that very course of action is being discussed at the icareihelp Twitter page. I think all these Delta horses have lip tattoos, so it should be pretty easy to trace back to the owners.

That said, the owners and trainers of two Delta kill lot horses in recent months were identified and publicly posted on the aforementioned site; to my knowledge Delta took no action even when provided with the names of the connections. Delta certainly never responded to my email politely asking for an update on any punitive action.

I just sent an email to the Investigations division of the Louisiana Racing Commission. We'll see if I get a response. I won't hold my breath.

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Thanks for posting that Haskins column, Thask. The "Dina" he mentions, Dina Alborano, runs www.icareihelp.com

A few weeks ago I donated a small amount to rescue a Delta horse from Thompson's Kill Lot. His name was Ole Doc.

Equibase: Ole Doc

Ole Doc is six years old. In his career he earned $102,485. He was perfectly healthy when he was sentenced for slaughter. Dina raised enough money, bought him from Thompson's, and he's doing well and looking good in a new permanent home.

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Doris Hebert, trainer
Robert J. Esponge, Jr., owner

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The thought of 2-year-old horses running around in kill lots sickens me to the point where I am ashamed of myself for having supported this game for the last 37 years. This isn't the "Sport of Kings"...this is an OUTRAGE. These poor horses are being discarded as if they were a worn-out deck of cards in some gruesome poker game...and the tracks don't give a damn even as they sit on the casino profits that these unfortunate horses help them collect...while pretending that they have "anti-slaughter" rules in effect on their premises.

Utterly despicable...IMO.
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Thanks for posting that Haskins column, Thask. The "Dina" he mentions, Dina Alborano, runs www.icareihelp.com

A few weeks ago I donated a small amount to rescue a Delta horse from Thompson's Kill Lot. His name was Ole Doc.

Equibase: Ole Doc

Ole Doc is six years old. In his career he earned $102,485. He was perfectly healthy when he was sentenced for slaughter. Dina raised enough money, bought him from Thompson's, and he's doing well and looking good in a new permanent home.

Last recorded connections:

Doris Hebert, trainer
Robert J. Esponge, Jr., owner
I will contact icareihelp myself...and do what I can to support this great cause. What is a better feeling than to know that you've helped to save a life?
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Nine more Delta horses found at Thompson's Kill Lot in a separate holding pen, bringing the total there to 24, bound for slaughter in 48 hours. The nine segregated horses are marked "Direct Ship," meaning direct ship to Mexican slaughterhouses without being advertised for sale on Thompson's Facebook page. Whoever sold them to Thompson's doesn't want to be traced.

Delta is simply giving the middle finger to those of us who'd like to see Delta uphold its so-called "no-slaughter" policy.

Despicable management and leadership at Delta and Boyd Gaming. And since the Director of Racing at Delta, Chris Warren, is also the DofR at Evangeline, I expect we will see more of the same when EVD opens.
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If you cant afford even proper "putting-down" the horse, you shouldnt be in horse ownership. I wish people would stop betting this track. i have a feeling the connection to the kill lots is well planned there.
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We all have to face something. There is more racing then reputable folks to undertake it.

Back in the day, you could do a number of terrible things and only the insiders would know.

Today, the worst of all worlds. The terrible info is out there for all to see, and the authorities by and large do nothing.

Race horse aftercare is a very difficult issue. Few horses that are raced for any length of time are left in a condition for the average future horse owner to deal with. Most have issues which seriously effect what they can be used for. I imagine if we all were aware of what happens t most of them we would be sick to our stomachs. We here the happy story, "sent off to retirement," and hope and pray they will be taken care of. I am guessing that very very few race horses die of old age.

The public will not stand for it much longer.
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Update on the Delta 24

Dina at www.icareihelp.com is $7,600 short of the $22,000 needed to bail out the Delta 24. She was denied help by the newly-created NTWO. She had to pay Jacob Thompson to give her an extension of time. She will also need $350 per horse to cover the 30-day quarantine.




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