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Old 10-07-2017, 12:23 AM   #76
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Keeneland Race 5 Payout for the Pick 4
$0.50 Pick-4 (5/8/6/5,11,12,13,14) Paid $488.60 (4OF4)

Pool was $188K
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:24 AM   #77
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Anyone know why there are no payouts listed on either DRF or Equibase charts for the early pick 4 on Keeneland's opening day, concluding in race 5? Was there a completely successful boycott & $0 in that pool?
According to 4NJBETS, the Pick 4 ending in Race 5 paid as follows:

$1.00 PICK 4 4 OF 4 5/8/6/5,11,12,13,14 $977.20

It didn't say what the Total Pick 4 Pool was.
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:25 AM   #78
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Keeneland Race 5 Payout for the Pick 4
$0.50 Pick-4 (5/8/6/5,11,12,13,14) Paid $488.60 (4OF4)

Pool was $188K
You beat me to it with better info.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:28 AM   #79
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opening day handle between last year and this year looked very close to me. that should be a major disappointment to Keeneland management. the field sizes looked bigger and new withholding rules took effect.

i believe that not only will this takeout hike effect Keeneland, it will wind up hurting the whole industry from all over.

Keeneland needs to be a showcase meet in order to generate interest in the game so that horses are bred and sold. if by the end of the short meet you see a 5% decline in handle it will tell you that the game is in big trouble thanks to the people in this game that make the corporate decisions.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:37 AM   #80
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It looked like prices on everything went up at the track
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:40 AM   #81
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If we stick to our guns we MAY win this thing, only problem I see is Keeneland may be run by Liberals now and they would gladly run it into the ground before crossing the isle. Like Amarillo Slim I'm all in and not even watching Keeneland.
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I cant find total handle figures on equibase yet, and chrims doesn't have the data as of 7:30am. Really curious to see the effect. The boycott has been pretty well advertised, at least in my opinion.
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:22 PM   #83
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I am not watching racing on tv till the Keeneland meet is over.
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:11 PM   #84
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that's the spirit, now all together.
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:17 PM   #85
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I cant find total handle figures on equibase yet, and chrims doesn't have the data as of 7:30am. Really curious to see the effect. The boycott has been pretty well advertised, at least in my opinion.
Can't find anything either.....I guess no one plays the $1 Pick-6 at Kee, as the carryover was only $6768, based on pool of only $11,577...
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opening day handle between last year and this year looked very close to me. that should be a major disappointment to Keeneland management. the field sizes looked bigger and new withholding rules took effect.
Field sizes weren't bigger...pretty much the same...my inside source () tells me 98 betting interests vs. 96.
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High Priced Babies

For those of you who like to follow the high priced auction babies, Mark Casse has two running at Keeneland today, Conquisador in the third, sold for $2.45 million and worked a furlong in 9.3 seconds....and in the 10th, he has Curlins Honor, sold for $1.5 million and worked a furlong in 10 flat. Both have plenty of pedigree and are good lookers, I watched the replays of their blow outs and the auction videos.
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A few points going into Day 2 of the Keeneland boycott.

This is a perfect example of why horseracing is loved in the UK and not loved here.

Over there the Racing Post and Sporting Life would be all over this taking extra money from the punters by the tracks or bookmakers. Daily and weekly reminders in articles online and in the Racing Post print edition would abound. And the main horseracing broadcast on ITV each Saturday would discuss why the additional fee for betting is justified or not justified. Hell, the daily newspapers in the UK would be discussing this fleecing too.

As opposed to what we get here....DRF tells us the raise is coming back in August and adds something about gamblers probably being unhappy. Thanks for nothing DRF....TVG not only will not tell us about the increase in takeout but they are encouraging me to be a sucker by making 2 races from Keeneland today "Money Back Special Races" if my pick finishes 2nd or third at Keeneland today. Thanks for absolutely nothing TVG. And it goes without saying "Thanks for nothing Keeneland" is the order of the day.

So let's review. I'm drunk and fumbling for my keys in the pub. DRF says I may be better off not having another drink but it's up to me. TVG offers me a couple more free drinks - I guess to keep me from leaving the bar. And Keeneland mugged me on the way into the bar so they know it will be much less lucrative to mug me on the way out.


Day 2 and I'm still not playin' Keeneland.
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Could you imagine how often TVG would be telling us if they lowered the take at Keeneland it would be none stop......
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