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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
In order for me to believe or disbelieve, one MUST first provide a definition of WHAT GOD IS...No one can do this, because it is impossible to render a description of an immateriality....
One might say that god is "spirit"...Now what exactly is "spirit"..?
"Spirit" might as well be "Bncwebecsdugb" because there is no one to one correspondence here at all, to anything in the real world...it does not make sense to be "a" (meaning "not) "Bncwebecsdugb"....
One cannot be an "a-"Bncwebecsdugb"....an "abncwebecsdugb"....it is just nonsense....
Please provide a testable and provable definition of god, and you might make a believer or disbeliever of me....
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Let's consider your "Bncwebecsdugb"...
The
materialist W.V. Quine proposed an "indeterminacy of translation"...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indete...of_translation
...whereby, for any collection of physical facts, no matter how large, there is nothing about them that entails one specific meaning rather than another. Your improvised word, or any other word, carries no specific, universal meaning in the ink, the type, the shape of the symbols, etc. Such is true of the physical world at large, according to no less than
materialist Daniel Dennett, et.al...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indete..._consciousness
...Yet we do exhibit determinate thought in formal thinking... adding, arguing via valid inferences, focusing on my particular argument here in order to respond, etc.
Therefore, how can formal thinking be wholly a physical process?
