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Old 09-20-2018, 12:34 AM   #8474
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Originally, you said that God IS the universe and the universe IS God.But what is the core essence or foundational structure to this universe? It's a lot more than energy. It's Space, Matter and Time. And Space and Time are invisible, non-physical, intangible. Matter consists of energy, motion and phenomena. And Motion consists of physical matter. You can't just conveniently, toss out the the rest of the essence of the universe and cherry-pick "energy" to try to satisfy your heresy.
So you want me to cover space and time as well? OK. First of all time does not exist. Not going to explain that here.

Second of all space is not empty. Ask any astrophysicist. And yes God would be what the matter that can't be seen in "empty space" is.

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Moreover, God is not only invisible and intangible, but unlike energy, God cannot be measured.
Of course God cannot be measured. But an energy in question CAN be measured. And that energy comes from God and is part of God.

You need to understand that God is not confined to an anthropomorphic being. He is multitasking , multidimensional and formless.

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But it is contradictory to say that God the Spirit can be seen. That he's visible.
I never said that. But I said he incarnates which you seem to agree with me at the end of your last quote citing Jesus as an incarnation of God.

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It is also contradictory to say that God's essence is the universe,
You misquote me. I said God's essence is Divine love. But that he incarnates as the universe, in the flesh, or whatever he wants.

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Also, God is timeless; but the universe is time-bound. Again, the three laws of logic come into play here and to have a timeless God and time-bound God would violate all three laws.
You cannot have an eternal God in a time bound universe. It would not contain him.

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Your "best friend" has also said that no one has seen God at any time, save for Jesus, yet we continually behold the physical universe.
I am not saying the universe is God by itself. That was Paganism. I am saying that everything that has been made by God has God's intrinsic energy within it. Just like we have a soul which is God within us and is part of God.
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