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Old 09-02-2010, 05:23 PM   #50
Indulto
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Originally Posted by rwwupl
rrbauer,

Note at the top it is a suggestion.

It would make the point that raising the takeout does not increase business, and customers shy away. Complete "Boycotts" do not work. Can you cite anywhere that a horse racing boycott has forced the regulators,racing managers or state legislators to reverse themselves?

I am personally against empty threats,breaking arms and thug tactics, as I am sure you are too.

Telling people to just stop betting is like telling a fat person that he can solve his problem if he would just stop eating,true but impractable.We are all gamblers,enjoy it, and some are Californians, who do not want to hurt the industry or State, just make it better.

We are looking for a proper solution,that does not cost an arm or a leg, to show the racing managers that they are heading in the wrong direction and we need a consensus of opinion if anything is to be effective. Bomb throwing may do more harm to HANA and California racing than good. What do you mean by "Activists and Confrontational"? I do not think that is the Goal. There are enough problems now.

We are grown ups and Horse players and all of us have been beat up many times, and most of us know how to turn the page. When we get beat up we make a new plan...here we are.

This is a time to bring on ideas, and thrash them around to see if they are practical or just rhetoric and we are counting on senior members such as yourself to contribute. If you have something to say ,please be specific and offer what you have in mind.

Lets not disparage the ideas of others, lets just forward a better idea, and see what has traction. A reasonable and doable solution will appear with your and others help. In California, we have until the Santa Anita meet to decide.
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rw,
Let's be clear from the onset that no-one is advocating violence of any sort. To equate passion which is what we desperately need to win this battle with irresponsible behavior is not appropriate.

As far as California racing's survival is concerned, we'll have to come to terms with what is worth surviving to whom. Racing at the highest level of the SPORT will continue even if year round, lower-level racing does not. Santa Anita will survive as a Triple Crown prep venue as long as owners capable of buying or breeding such competitors exist. They don't depend solely on horseplayers to fund their competition. Whatever else survives at this point should be required to do so on its own merits by offering a worthwhile product.

I agree with your underlined statements above, but mutual respect is not possible when some are questioning the maturity levels of others.
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