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Old 05-05-2020, 11:15 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by Spalding No! View Post
Pavel had talent, no doubt about it. People with good opinions were touting him after his maiden win. His connections ruined him.

Setsuko, with 3 grade 1 placings, was often bet despite being eligible for allowance conditions. People were hoping he'd draw into the 2010 Kentucky Derby off his suck-up 2nd in the Santa Anita Derby. People thought he was robbed in the 2011 Big Cap won by Game On Dude. Classic sucker horse.

Ken Rudolph ranted and raved about Giacomo on TVG every chance he got. The horse was bet in several starts post-Derby despite never getting closer than 5-lengths to the winner in any of those races save the San Diego against some Grade 3-types.
Giacomo was a grade 3 type, grade 3 types can win grade 1's in the right scenarios. Giacomo would have been a nice horse to own, beyond the Ky Derby and all, he collected paychecks at a pretty good clip in big races.

Looking back on it you wonder how good that third place effort of Pavel really was in his second start, the horses in that race were ok. I think that race is what really elevated the opinion of him.

I do remember Setsucko a little, mostly with it being that he was not very good. I think I bet against him many times.
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