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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
I was playing 1-2 No Limit today at the Red Rock.
I think I played the hand correctly and just got unlucky but you tell me.
Start of the hand I had about $495.00
I was the big blind.
The two who ended up playing after the flop were a guy with $67.00 two seats to my left and the small blind who had about $425.00
5 way limped pot. I saw a flop with 2-5 off suit.
The flop comes A-3-4 two spades.
The small blind acts first and bets $18.00. While I'm thinking of what to do with my straight the guy to the left of me acts out of turn and puts his $67.00 all in.
I surmise the dealer can't answer the question I have so I call the floor and ask what plays or plays I can make that will force him to leave his $67.00 in the pot. I'm told that the only play I can make is to flat call the $18.00. So that's what I do.
After a short bit of thought the small blind calls the $67.00.
I shove for $477.00
The small blind thinks about it for 3 minutes or so and calls.
He has J-7 of spades
The 9 of spades comes on the turn and I lose.
Correct me if I'm wrong but his call was really bad for two reasons. One, we was only getting about 7/5 on his money.
Further compounded by the fact I don't think he ever considered that I might have better spades. And perhaps toughest to deal with is. After the question I asked the floor the small blind dude should have anticipated I was likely to shove based on the way I formed the question.
I know I was only about a 2-1 favorite so I'm not crying that I lost to a huge suck out.
What I hate is I think I'm correct in saying that his call was HORRIBLE 
What say you guys? |
Well, presumably he doesn't think his J and 7 are live outs. So he is, at best, drawing to 9 outs twice. If you have 2 pair or a set (both possible checking your option from the big blind), he has less equity in the pot. There's $113 in the pot. He is putting $405 into that pot-- a huge overbet-- to try to win $923. So he is getting 1.27 to 1 on his money.
A 9 out flush draw, with 2 cards to come, is about 38 percent to get there. Which means he needs to get at least 1.58 to 1 to justify it on pot equity.
And that, bear in mind, is before we factor in the fact that either of his opponents might have one of the following-- (1) 2 pair, reducing his draw to 8 outs, (2) a set, effectively reducing his draw to about 7.3 outs, (3) one of the three higher flush draws, making his draw dead, or (4) a straight with a redraw to a straight flush, reducing his draw by 0.1 or 0.2 outs. All of which reduce the EV of his hand.
Bottom line, that is an awful call by a player with extreme problems in the math deparatment. You want to play against him.
