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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
I was playing 1-2 No Limit today at the Red Rock.
I think I played the hand correctly and just got unlucky but you tell me.
Start of the hand I had about $495.00
I was the big blind.
The two who ended up playing after the flop were a guy with $67.00 two seats to my left and the small blind who had about $425.00
5 way limped pot. I saw a flop with 2-5 off suit.
The flop comes A-3-4 two spades.
The small blind acts first and bets $18.00. While I'm thinking of what to do with my straight the guy to the left of me acts out of turn and puts his $67.00 all in.
I surmise the dealer can't answer the question I have so I call the floor and ask what plays or plays I can make that will force him to leave his $67.00 in the pot. I'm told that the only play I can make is to flat call the $18.00. So that's what I do.
After a short bit of thought the small blind calls the $67.00.
I shove for $477.00
The small blind thinks about it for 3 minutes or so and calls.
He has J-7 of spades
The 9 of spades comes on the turn and I lose.
Correct me if I'm wrong but his call was really bad for two reasons. One, we was only getting about 7/5 on his money.
Further compounded by the fact I don't think he ever considered that I might have better spades. And perhaps toughest to deal with is. After the question I asked the floor the small blind dude should have anticipated I was likely to shove based on the way I formed the question.
I know I was only about a 2-1 favorite so I'm not crying that I lost to a huge suck out.
What I hate is I think I'm correct in saying that his call was HORRIBLE 
What say you guys? |
I think your math is pretty much spot on as well as your thinking that his calling your shove was a BAD move.
I used an on-line poker calculator, and gave the third player pocket Aces. Post flop the odds for you were .379 and the eventual winner .261 (2.83 to 1). His shove of $358 into a pot of $510 shows he is only getting about 1.42 to 1 odds, or about 1/2 the minimum required mathematically in order to consider making a call. Yup, definitely a very bad call.
There is of course "good" news and "bad" news.
The good news is that if this is a regular behavior with this player, someone is going to benefit from it in the future.
The bad news is that when a similar opportunity occurs again in our current game, we have been dealt hands like 27o and 49o and have long-since tossed them in.
