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Originally Posted by dnlgfnk
My original point was simply Santa Monica vs. Get Explicit, and that Beyer, if he ever truly embraced trip handicapping race in, race out, would never have preferred Get Explicit over Monica Saturday, based upon what he called a kindergarten-level judgement (ground loss) in the early eighties.
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That's a beauty of trip handicapping.
The impact of ground loss is NOT just mathematics. It depends on how the track was playing (inside/outside), how much extra energy the horse expended by being wide, whether the individual horse runs well inside/outside etc..
The impact of pace is also NOT just mathematics. Again, it depends on how the track was playing that day (how tiring), how much natural speed/stamina the horse has, whether the horse was battling or loose, whether the horse got its preferred position or got outrun, what kind of turn of foot the horse has late if the pace was slow etc..
Then there are more subtle visual things.
Everyone knows the basics given clear cut extremes, but many of these things fall into grey areas where informed people might disagree, especially when they are mixed for the same horse in the same race.