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Old 03-09-2022, 01:57 PM   #679
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Again, at least I now know where you are coming from. You are like the US government and NATO. You are not interested in peace. You are interested in gaining power, resources, land, influence etc... That attitude is why we are in this mess.
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Remember when the whole Republican party was basically like Ely in terms of foreign policy?

Now at least half the Republican party sounds like liberals from 15-20+ years ago...lol...myself included.
I want to just take a moment here to cut thru the absolute bullshit I'm hearing.

It's the quasi-apologia and nonsense I expect to hear from Anarcho-Commie Tankies. Horseshoe theory does indeed create strange bedfellows.

You all keep blaming some gentleman's nonsense agreement from 1990 between the United States and the USSR (doesn't even exist but whatever). We have countless treaties with both Russia and the dead USSR. We write that shit down but now suddenly we don't because that would actually be convenient...? Or maybe because we didn't actually agree to anything.

I can name one agreement though that actually is written down that you all had zero fucking problems saying wasn't real.

So which is it?

Secondly, does Poland get a vote? How about Estonia? Lithuania? These are independent countries... do they not get to join alliances with other nations? Do we tell them no because it might upset Putin and James Baker said something to Mikhail fucking Gorbachev 32 years ago?

I didn't expect to see myself arguing with basically USSR Tankie Fandom here yet here we are...
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