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Originally Posted by fast4522
People here in denial of a deep state or swamp.
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People define the "deep state" in ways that are not true and then say "see, it doesn't exist".
IMO, the deep state is primarily people within the intelligence community that have a political agenda and use their IC resources to circumvent a healthy democracy and advance their goals. That probably goes as far collecting dirt on politicians, journalists, media people, activists, CEOs etc.. and subtly or not so subtly threatening their careers (or worse) if they don't shut up and go along with the program. They are not good people even when/if we agree with them on some issues. To a large extent, this is why the media is so corrupt. They are not dong their job as the protector of democracy by exposing incompetence and corruption. They are a major part of the corruption doing the bidding of their masters which are politicians, corporate giants, and the IC.