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Originally Posted by Tom
Make up your mind.
First they were questions....in your own words:
That's it.
And so no you can't answer what SPECIFIC rule Justify violate.
The blinkers issue, which is the only legitimate gripe, is it even a rule in NYRA? Surely with your 25 years of experience you could tell what the rule number is? And how Justify violated it. And how the stewards allowed it?
Try adding "witty" to your Google searches - the word you are looking for is reality. You have an opinion. Everyone is entitled to one. But don't try to hide behind 25 years of experience as some sort of justification for yours.
The real world deals with actual rules actually violated, and if you don't know which rules were broken, then your opinion is just that- yours.
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And so no you can't answer what SPECIFIC rule Justify violate.
A. I never said Justify violated ANY rule. Are you delusional? You just make it up as you go. And of course, you add an insult along the way. You read what you WANT to see, not what is actually in front of you.
Q. The blinkers issue, which is the only legitimate gripe, is it even a rule in NYRA? Surely with your 25 years of experience you could tell what the rule number is?
A. So I need to prove it to you. Then what, you pretend it was sarcasm ?
And if was the only legitimate gripe, why did the Stewards question Geroux the other day about his ride???
Here is some sarcasm. No Tom, there is no rule about it anywhere. Trainers and owners just decide whatever they want and the public never knows about it or only when they feel like telling them. And that person in the paddock, called a paddock judge, isn't checking the equipment on each horse before they go to the track for the protection of the customers, they are drawing little pictures of each horse.
None of these are rules, I just made them up. Trainers can instruct riders to stiff their horse or burn their horse up trying to compromise another horse and in doing so, ride with no effort to win whatsoever. They can screw the public anytime they want to . Riders can do anything they want in a race and if it includes screwing everyone that bet on their mount, too bad. Get em next time. It's perfectly legal. Equipment can be added or taken off whenever anybody wants to . Now I know I have just given you material for your next cute little monologue with this so when you cut and paste it, be sure and include the part that says it is sarcasm.
Q. And how Justify violated it.
A. I Never said he did. I never said Justify did anything wrong. I said that the trainer, an owner, the blks off question which could be the trainer, Stewards, or someone along the chain that would carry that info and a jockey are in question. Not just to me but to plenty of people in this forum.
If you would read and comprehend what I wrote you would see and understand that I was talking about Restoring Hope.
Wait, let ME ask the next question. What's that have to do with Justify?
Nothing oh gifted one, it has to do with a possible rules violation and because the announcement was made well after the betting started, I would think the people that placed bets on the race would be entitled to an answer as to why the change was not announced sooner or on the program or better still, not on the post position draw slip that is posted here in PA.
My previous post is below. Read it real slowly. Let it sink in. And of course, find another way to insult me while showing everyone that you read what you want to read instead of what I wrote.
Lastly, I am not hiding behind anything Tom. I am showing customers that they deserve answers to questions about what plenty in here are asking about. You are advocating for anybody that has questions pertaining to actual rules to prove it or shut up. I find that, along with your selective reading incredibly sad.
Here it comes...
1. Were instructions given to Noble Indy's rider to use his horse to outrun or pressure Justify at all costs with no regard to winning and or to aid another horses chances of winning?
2. Were instructions given to Restoring Hope's rider to use his horse in a manner that compromised his chances of winning?
3. Did the rider of Restoring Hope ride in such a manner as to willfully compromise his mounts chances of winning to aid another horses chances of winning?
4. Was the late change in Restoring Hope's blks. to "OFF" stated at time of entry or within a time period allowed in NY?
5. Why was there no announcement of the blinker change until approx. 1pm the day of the race which was well after the betting had started ?
These are 5 questions that speak to actual rules of racing which are put in place to protect the public.
They should be answered to the public, so as to assure that their best interests are being considered.
Whether Justify would have won anyway or Noble Indy wasn't fast enough or anything else is opinion. And while it is great to discuss these things, there should be no wondering when it comes to the integrity of the game.
