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Originally Posted by Cratos
Let's keep this simple.
Whether you are measuring horseracing, car racing, or human racing pace is the independent
variable and final time is the dependent variable.
There continue to be that assumption there is something about horseracing in terms of movement that is mysterious and only a few can interpret a racehorse movement with some innocuous metric called a speed figure.
It is good that there are people who develop handicapping methods, but please stop the nonsense, Newton's laws will always and absolutely prevail when it comes to the motion of any object: man, machine, or beast.
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I'm not sure where this comment is coming from. The question was whether Beyer includes pace in his numbers.
To make it simple, assume 2 horses ran the following races and all else was equal.
A: 21 3/5 - 43 4/5 - 109
B: 22 ---- 44 3/5 - 109
They have the same final time, but clearly did not run the same race.
Beyer generally focuses on the 109 final time and gives both horses the same number.
There are some figure makers that will look at both the fractions and final time and give Horse A the better number because of the faster pace. When you do that, it becomes a performance figure instead of a final time figure.
Beyer generally chooses to leave pace analysis to the player other than in extreme cases. That's a very simple point.
