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Originally Posted by dnlgfnk
I think he wearied of the same recycled arguments, coming from the same presuppositions we all have, as I did. At least I hope so, and that he is fine.
I have many varied sites + twitter, of theological, cultural, financial, sporting, and of course of a racing milieu to dive into. Seems like a lot of individuals come here for easy pickings, who would get devoured on a larger stage. I know I would lack the perseverance to engage with the fellows at Triablogue, and would need to call for reinforcements. Daily controversial argumentation cannot be good for the soul (Titus 3). You ought to consider some sort of personal change or reevaluate how much time is invested here vs. anything gained by you or others. Like any good bettor, right?
I don't know what changed, but I'm saying discreetly that Twinspires opened up to Missouri residents, or maybe just me, and I've been fortunate with my initial month of investing. Can prove that if somebody would show me how to screenshot. Gonna spend much time with those grand thoroughbreds, win or lose.
If you agree with this:
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/597.htm
...you must avoid any possibility in your posts that you do not. |
Actually, in recent years I have spent considerably less time on this forum "debating". I have taken Rev 22:10-11 to heart, along with other passages of similar genre.
Regarding the link above, the statement does not comport at all with the testimony of scripture. The inspired writers laid the blame of Jesus' death primarily on the Jews -- but not solely upon them. Obviously, the gentiles (represented by Rome that in turn was represented by Pilate) was complicit in his death.
After all -- the Messiah came to his own, but his own received him not! (Jn 1:11) Jesus wasn't born in Asia Minor, or Rome, or in Asia but in Bethlehem in the city of David.
Secondly, according to the testimony of the early chapters of Acts, we should hold Jesus' prayer for the forgiveness of the sin of his murderers in balance with the judgment of God on the Jews in 70 A.D. due to their act of blasphemy, apostasy, idolatry and rebellious covenant-breaking, as all these found their ultimate expression in their greatest crime ever against their covenant God -- the rejection and murder of His only Begotten Son whom he sent to offer the Kingdom of God. Acts tells us that that shortly after Pentecost the Father did indeed answer Jesus' prayer for forgiveness as thousands repented and believed the gospel at the preaching of Peter and others. But again, we must not forget Jesus' ominous words to the women as he was carrying his cross:
Luke 23:27-31
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A large number of people followed him, including women who mourned and wailed for him. 28 Jesus turned and said to them, "Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me ; weep for yourselves and for your children. 29 For the time will come when you will say, 'Blessed are the barren women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!' 30 Then
"'they will say to the mountains, "Fall on us!"
and to the hills, "Cover us!" '
31 For if men do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?"
NIV
Jesus was clearly alluding to the coming judgment on that generation who was guilty of his murder! The righteous judgment of God upon the Jews, administered through Rome, was so severe that it literally put and end to the Mosaic Covenant! And without this covenant, the Judaism of the Mosaic Covenant also died with that generation of Jews!
And if you still doubt the severity of the Jews' crime against their covenant God, I would also remind you of Jesus' sober words to the elite religious establishment of his day when he told them in no uncertain terms that the Kingdom of God would be taken away from them and given to a "nation" that would produce the fruit if it (Mat 21:43-46), and the religious leaders understood him perfectly! They understood that he was speaking about them!
So...the bottom line to your misleading link: Many Jews shortly after Pentecost were forgiven by God when he graciously granted them repentance and faith; but most were not which is why the nation and and the Mosaic Covenant perished in 70 A.D., as Jesus predicted it would.
