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Originally Posted by boxcar
Yeah...your talk is as cheap as your reading skills are sorely deficient. I never said you don't believe IN God. I said you don't believe God.
Everywhere, scripture clearly teaches that only those who trust God (i.e. believe him) are saved and are his adopted children. How can you believe him when you believe God was powerless to preserve the integrity of his Word, which you believe (and this is what your REALLY BELIEVE) has been "altered, manipulated and misrepresented"?
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God's word is not in a book,its in your soul. When they say
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. there was no written word nor the Bible.
When you learn what the "word" is then you will know that IS God. I have been meditating on that "word" for 40 years. Its the only word you need to know and it cannot be written.
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Not godly hate! God is not a conflicted person. God CANNOT love righteousness and justice while simultaneously loving wickedness and injustice.
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OK, I see your confusion here. I never said God loves these negative qualities. But as an all loving,all knowing being,he does not lower himself to the stupidity of using hate for hate. He is way too wise for that.
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God's hate is a holy hatred.
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You simply don't understand what hate is. Hate is "frustrated love". Everything comes from love. The only beings that become frustrated with their love are humans. God does not get frustrated otherwise he needs to grow up which is silly. Humans need to grow up. They get frustrated and those frustrations when severe breeds hatred.
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If evil only appears to exist, then Shirely you can see that, logically speaking good can only appear to exist also. In short, Good and Evil still don't exist, which means all your Eastern spiritual double-talk and gibberish is all nonsense.
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You are right. Good and Evil are illusions. In the Eastern religions that you believe are "gibberish", they also believe that our "good/evil outlook is due to our lower consciousness defining for each succeeding generation what good and evil are. But if we have "God consciousness" we would see there is no "good" or "evil". They are simply parts of a whole.
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Then it's not biblical love. It's not God's kind of love that acts for his glory and for the good of others. It's not Jesus' kind of love that acts for his glory, the glory of his Father and for the good of others. Your love is a selfish, self-serving, self-centered love that does not seek to serve anyone but yourself.
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Incorrect. It is Biblical love. God said
"Be still and know I am God". That requires the stillness of mind which you cannot achieve without going inward and meditating not on the mind's thoughts but on God's love. That is the love I am talking about that is not connected to a person, place or thing.When you achieve that you will be still and know God.
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"How can God love an illusion"? He loves you, doesn't he?  |
Don't play stupid. I already clarified that my body and mind are illusions but not my soul. That is what God sees.
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Have you considered the real possibility that you've been weeping over an illusion? Have you considered the possibility, along Actor's lines, that the Jesus story is fake news? It's all made up by the same people who, according to you, "altered, manipulated and misrepresented" scripture? After all, what would anyone know about this Jesus character if weren't for all this corrupt scripture?
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Yes, I have considered whether Jesus is an illusion, of course. The only problem is that he has proven his power to make miracles in my life over and over again and there are too many miracles to consider them coincidences. That is also why I weep. That he has extended himself out to me to show me he is real, especially in my time of need. This is also why I don't need a book to tell me what is real, nor what rules to follow. I follow my heart and that's where God lives.
I have an active relationship with Jesus in the present. Not some fantasy about his life 2000 years ago from a book that is documented to have been altered and has a zillion versions,many of which you don't believe in. How real is that?
