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Old 11-04-2018, 02:27 PM   #43
Threechimes
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Originally Posted by Track Collector View Post
The key word here is Casino OTB, and you happen to be a lucky beneficiary. Those spinning bandits that require almost no thinking to play sure do bring in a lot of revenue. I suspect that if your place only had an OTB with no other lucrative forms of gambling revenue, you would not be getting free drinks and a racing form by wagering $20 per day. Customer Service can not operate in a vacuum outside of an understanding of sound business practices.
I agree to disagree. Let's actually break this down further . How many tracks in the USA have casinos attached to them? How many of those tracks give out the racing form or program free? None!

Let's look at the fresh blood market horse racing should go after. The young guys betting sports. Of I want to bet a football game. I can go online and get all the information I need to make a betting choice for FREE. Player and team and weather and trends etc etc is all available to me for free. I make my choice bet $110.00 to win $100.00

Now let's look at racing . If I want information I have to pay $6.50 for it . If I bet the same even money wager at the track . Now I'm paying 24% to make the same wager . Not to mention I have to beat a certain amount of other horses and trainers and who is juiced and who is not . I have to beat the jockeys or jockey who makes a bad decision. So beyond all these variables why the hell would I pay 24% to do that?


So please make a case for why anybody would do that who is new to the game. They won't . So how do we convert a certain amount of players to the game each year to grow the player pool?

Well the first thing is to get rid of all the crusty old non thinking idiots that run the game. No matter how you slice it you have to cut your take . You have to give people a logical and sound reason to wager.

The way you explain it is why should we give things out if we have no casino . Because nobody who is new to the game is going to buy information . Why? Cause they probably are not coming back. Holding race seminars for new players is stupid. It's way too confusing for them and half of them would need a ten week course . Racing has always made the huge mistake of trying to cater to the Average fan . When what they should be doing and done is cater to the guy who is there every day. The guy who knows guys who can be converted into hard core players.

Let's face facts . Hard core race gamblers are not fans . Me personally could care less about Derby's or Cups . Horse of the year awards . Blah! . I don't give a shit about horses getting hurt or jockeys getting hurt. The only thing as a Gambler I care about is the next soft spot I can find to wager my money on. Positive expected value .

I'm the guy that keeps this game running . I'm the guy who puts $200.00 into the pool on a Monday afternoon. There are many guys like me out here . But as long as the tracks decide to give grandma a buffet for playing $20.00 in penny slots and not guys like me . Then my wagering dollar goes to people who earn it . Like the ADW that offer me rebates and the sports books who give me a form and comps .


So to answer the question . For a track to charge me for a racing form is pathetic. Give it to me and I'll wager that $6.50 ten times over . Make me pay for it and I don't show up.
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