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Originally Posted by MonmouthParkJoe
This has been an interesting thread.
The OTBs in Arizona that are owned and operated by turf are horrible. I have yet to see the Arizona Downs locations but judging by some of the stuff Craig posts they look much nicer then what is there. I appreciate what Craig is doing, so Craig don’t let some internet race track executive tell you otherwise.
There is much more at stake here that I’m sure will come out at some point. Think about it. Why in the world would anyone want to open a defunct track in a state like Arizona given the economics of it all? The other shoe will drop.
I hope the group succeeds and I’m sure will.
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MPJ: The reason most of TP off tracks are a complete failure is they gave up a long time ago caring about the player. My off track is in a busy bar . There is a teller and a self serve machine. There is no place to sit and five total televisions. So if ten tracks are running you can watch up to five. One of the televisions has been broken for a year. It has a bad picture. What does it tell you as a horse player that instead of replacing a $250.00 TV . They decided to let it go . LMAO!!!.
When the bar is busy on Friday and Saturday I assure you it's the last place you would want to watch and wager at. Turf Paradise is a complete abomination of what a track should be. They run 8 races with an average field size of 7-8 horses . Half of the field can be tossed due to misclassification or age. Usually it's a match race between 3/5 and 8/5 . On the off chance a horse fires at decent odds . The pick 3-4 wagers still have zero value because of small pools.
Arizona Downs has the opportunity to shut Turf Paradise doors if they chose to do things correctly or at the very least force them into a competition war for the dwindling wagering dollar in this state.