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Originally Posted by boxcar
Do you know what a goodwill gesture is? It's when one person or side to a dispute takes the initiative to show good faith by making some token but real concession.  A goodwill gesture does not require an immediate response, nor is one usually expected. Nor is a goodwill gesture etched in stone forever without any appropriate response by the other party at any time.
 So...you have finally come around to realizing that Rocket Man & Co. at then end of the is nothing but a tick on the rump of the world -- a tick kept on a tight leash by Russia and China. He's a tiny country swinging a few big sticks going up against a much larger, wealthier, more powerful country that can swing many big sticks.  We could exterminate the tick in a matter of hours
Thanks be to God that you're not in government. There are enough brain-dead people in public service as it is.
 As far as Russia and China "wasting resources" to prop up Rocket Man -- that's their problem. That's the normal, going price they pay for proxies. And so far, they have been willing to do that.  Perhaps they're so willing because that's what it actually to keep the dictator on their leash and keep him from starting WW III nuke style. If China and Russia want to play the Proxy Game, they must be willing to pay. |
So we are now making "goodwill gestures" to the North Koreans...
Do you make goodwill gestures from positions of strength?
Ummm yes... that is actually my whole point about why the status quo is fine... proxy wars are small and manageable.
We can't... unless you want to open the nuclear pandora box. I've explained this countless times. Bloody, Tragic, Massive Collateral Damage... don't believe me check what Secretary of Defense has to say on the subject. So sure... we can annihilate North Korea in 15 minutes... how many cities in Japan and South Korea have mushroom clouds too? Worth the risk?
I know its great isn't it?!?! I don't think they even like the guy but they don't really have a choice because he's so inconvenient to us and better than the alternative. <see proxy wars again>
They are willing to do it because we spend material resources and significant political capital there.
You need to read up on Nuclear Deterrence and what it does. Don't you find it interesting that in the past few years they have ramped up missile testing and now suddenly shut it down and want to talk? Like really want to talk? Its because they have a nuclear deterrent.
War is not an option in Korea anymore for us. They are going to exchange carrots for stuff they want.
The prospect of a conventional war in the Korean peninsula was too tough for us to swallow. Now its a nuclear one.
Trump is in a tough spot. He trying. He gets props for those things... it doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes. It doesn't mean that failure here and return to the status quo is a bad thing. Why is this so hard for you people to comprehend? Are you that far gone into dear leader praise?
He probably won't win here because he probably can't.
