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Old 06-19-2018, 08:25 AM   #3
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Oscar Performance ran a mile on the Widener Turf in 1:31 1 and broke a 20 year-old track record at Belmont Park.

For this he gets is a 104 BSF. That's all.

What does a horse have to do these days for Beyer to give a big fig.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what fig Beyer gave Elusive Quality when he set the previous record of 1:31 3?

I think the BSF's have become highly questionable in the last decade or so.

Look at the increasingly large difference between them and the TimeformUS figs. Years ago, I recall there being about a 15 point difference. More recently the difference has increased to about 20 to 22 points.
In this years Triple Crown races the difference was even greater, something like 30 points.

What's going on?
Beyer has always said he has difficulty making reliable turf figures. He also sometimes makes adjustments to previous figures after horses have run again.

CJ could probably shed some light on this.

Side note -- a lot of people have criticized Steve Roman for changing a horse's Dosage Index after more of a sire's progeny have run. I think it's good that Beyer and Roman change their ratings after more information becomes available.

A Beyer Speed Figure or a Dosage Index number is similar to a digital snapshot of some quality of a horse. The snapshot is based on sampling, but it's not the complete picture. Just like a digital audio recording is a sampling of the actual sound, but it's not the entire sound.

Beyer Speed Figures and the Dosage Index have proved useful, but they don't contain all information.
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