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Old 04-17-2019, 10:39 AM   #14
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Yes, that is certainly in the spirit of what I am thinking of. If I understood it looks like it is a look at various forms of ROI based on the situation. I think ROI is an important part of 'Trainer Performance', I'm not sure its the whole picture. Imagine if we bet on horses based on ROI, even if it is a very detailed picture of ROI under different circumstances, and not anything else; like speed, pace, running style and etc. So not knocking what you have there, just thinking it could be considered more deeply. I am particularly interested in 'Style' or methodology and thinking it might be applied in an analogous way as we use 'Running Style' for horses. So just like that approach, we would have to wait for a data producer to start including that in their offering.

Thank You very much for your insights, I have used some of your products with some success.
I especially like that last part. ;-)

Thank you.

The key to using trainer stats is to see them from the 10,000-foot level.

What we do is to create a subset of the "angles" that apply to each horse, and then average all the data for each category of the subset.



What I show above (lower-left) are the "systems." At the top are the trainers in this race, and the bottom-right are the applicable categories (or angles) for this horse.

Thus, if you look in the top section, at the highlighted trainer, you see that the categories below together average 25 starts and 3 wins.

Of course, there are a lot more columns in the table.

Here's the key point...

Each of the columns is available as a HANDICAPPING FACTOR!

Thus, looking at the "systems" - each column (such as win IV or place IV) could be populated directly into a weighted handicapping calculation!

This has a lot pf potential for pushing winners to the top, which is, of course, the logical goal.

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