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Old 10-17-2018, 12:08 AM   #714
HalvOnHorseracing
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Originally Posted by Tom View Post
Party loyalty?
Hardly.

What I see is a lot of people making money off of this, driving around in SUVs and world leaders of a lot of S-hole countries flying around in huge JETS going to meting to tell US how to run out country.

NOTHING will stop GW unless ti ia world-wide effort - ALL the major contributors doing their share. WHEN the rest of them start doing theirs, THEN we can consider doing ours. Until then, SCREW them all.

The GW fear mongers tried to take away our light bulbs! But in fact, CHINA was prepared to make then at a FAR worse impat than what we have here. But that was ok with the chicken-little hcaps of the world as longs WE were punished.

IF the glob heats up, so what? WE will adapt to it. The planet changes. It hasn't ever stopped changing. It will never stop changing. There is zero change we can stop it or make it stay where it is now. Zero chance.

Move inland, people.
God gave you a brain and legs. Use them.
It's going to be hard for an ocean to affect me. I made a good move by going to a place with 14,000 foot mountains between me and the Pacific.

Nobody was taking away your light bulbs. There were states like Nevada that mandated CFL's or LED's for some purpose other than to screw people, but not every state went that way (I'll bet NY did).

We now have bulbs that last a long time. I've lived in my current house 13 years and there are some bulbs I've never had to change. Yeah, I saved a wagon-full of money not having to replace bulbs. Plus they're getting cheaper all the time.

Other countries are hopping on board the GW train, not because we want them to, but because they are tired of living in places that look like Pittsburgh in the 40's. I'm sensitive to this because at some time in my life I breathed something or ate something or drank something that caused a gene to mutate and give me a rare form of leukemia, which I'm still fighting. You have to balance environmental quality with cost, but at the end of the day something that will mess you up internally is worth whatever we spend getting rid of it.

Yes the planet changes, but it changes as a result of some internal or external force. Volcanoes, the tilt of the axis, meteors - something stimulates the change. You've got to grasp the fact that the correlation between CO2 emissions and warming make a pretty good case for anthropogenic change. We do what we're willing to do and if that isn't enough we look for other things to do.

Of course we can change CO2 emissions. It might hurt, but it can be done with current technology. We're incredibly close to 24/7 utility-scale solar power. I've been to place like Nellis AFB in Las Vegas where half their electricity comes from solar panels. The Colonel I spoke with figured the savings in electricity cost was money that can go into defense. We're close to batteries that will store hours of wind generated electricity. That's the decision the Congress needs to make sooner rather than later.
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