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Originally Posted by Actor
Your second premise is a claim, made by you, and thus the burden of proof is on you.
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My claim is what YOU (
as an atheisitic materialist) believe. Since you now very obviously disagree with the second premise ,you can only be implying that you believe the physical universe(s) is not all that exists. And this is all that second premise really stated: that the origin of the universe is purely physical -- that the physical created (caused) the physical -- the natural created (caused) the natural, and this is how the universe came into existence.
Here is what I wrote for my second premise:
2. The Universe came into existence by, in and of itself, according to atheistic materialism.
Smooth move, Mr Ex.....(well you know the rest). You have just allowed the divine foot into the door of the universe with your denial of the second premise.
But...of course, if you also disagree with this only other viable alternative to a purely physical/natural origin to the universe then actually answer my questions in 5733 or 5774, you wussy weasel. Tell us plainly what OUTSIDE the universe caused the universe since it didn't cause itself. And if you say multiverses, then you need to tell us what caused the first one.
