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Originally Posted by Spalding No!
One thing to note comparing these different era horses is the overwhelming lack of consistency amongst today's horses.
Notice how many of the horses on the all-time Beyer list appear multiple times and also won races in bunches.
How do the records of the recent horses cited for comparison hold up:
Frosted? Shancelot? American Pharoah? Arrogate?
Rather than "great" or "dominant" horses, I see a list of one hit wonders (on the Beyer scale) or horses that couldn't make more than 10 lifetime starts or both.
Arrogate is the closest thing to a horse from prior decades but he clearly couldn't handle much racing even with several weeks between starts.
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Personally, I think that may argue even more in favor of the current figures not being reflective of the ability of the horses. You are saying even when one of them does pop a good figure it was more of a fluke. That means all these horses are either not very good or their figures lower than their ability.
When I look at the PPs of some of the run of the mill Grade 1 winners from the 90s, their figures would make them total monsters today. When I look at some Grade 1 winners now, I remember Classified ALW races where those Grade 1 winners would be overmatched.
I just can't buy it, especially when Thorograph was saying horses were getting much faster and Ragozon has the horses more level during the same period. Something is amiss.
